Well, hello, Lel, I'm glad you showed up! I agree with the idea that there is something missing to the bromide excretion theory. I find it hard to believe that one can still be excreting bromides many months or in a few cases, a year or two, into supplementation.
I have a theory......are you familiar with zeta potential?
I just posted this the other day....please follow the zeta potential posts:
And, as far as skin in particular is concerned...this was in reply to another poster:
PLEASE do some research on zeta potential, the links are all there. Basically, sodium is coagulative. And the high levels of sodium these io-docs are recommending, long-term can't be good, IMO. Have they actually kept track of how much bromide is coming out in the urine 6, 7, mos., a year or two into supplementation? I had never related zeta to lymph, only to blood....and of COURSE zeta potential affects the lymph as well.
And, what's at the core of cysts? trapped lymph.
and another thing....I've wondered about the makeup of these "bromide" zits....I posted this some time ago, I think it's another clue:
vesicles~ watery "pimples"~ potassium/sodium balance?
~warning~ a lot of conjecture here, possible bad Science
alert...*just trying to figure it out* :) I'm wondering if the large amounts of sodium we're taking in is affecting this balance...I hope Newport chimes in on this one, he brought this up quite some time ago. I also hope LNdolls chimes in as she is now using potassium chloride, wonder if that's affected the makeup of her "zits"?
"I very offen have spots with open skin. Sharp egdes, watery center."
~ I've had this, so have others. Something that looks like a zit, but only watery fluid comes out....soooo.....this is what they are:
"A vesicle is a well demarcated elevation of the superficial layers of the skin less than 1 cm
in diameter. The skin elevation is due to accumulation of intercellular fluid beneath the roof of the vesicle. The fluid is usually serum or an inflammatory exudate. Vesicles as seen in viral diseases, irritant contact dermatitis and autoimmune disorders are often superficial; therefore the vesicles are often transient, with crusting and erosions common."
Cells are permeable, this is governed by osmotic pressure:
and what controls the osmotic pressure? Potassium/sodium balance. & many other factors, including insulin levels, blood pH, a hormone produced by the adrenals, aldosterone
on potassium/sodium balance(this link has to do with body-building, I thought it was a good, clear explanation, though):
"Sodium is the primary positively charged ion in extra-cellular fluid. Sodium
regulates blood volume, acid-base balance, muscle and nerve function and
ATP-hydrolyzing activity in skeletal muscle. Potassium is the primary
positively charged ion in intracellular fluid. Potassium regulates intra-muscular
fluid levels, muscle and nerve function and ATP-hydrolyzing activity in skeletal
As you can see, sodium and potassium perform very similar functions with the
major difference being in the intra and extra-cellular fluid regulation. Most
everyone is aware that sodium has an effect on subcutaneous (under the skin)
fluid retention. Potassium has its effect on fluid inside the muscle cell. What
most don’t realize is that these two minerals are constantly striving for
equilibrium. When one gets out of line with the other your system will strive to
adjust to the underlying situation.
When you cut your sodium intake, your body will quickly compensate by
holding more sodium in and releasing potassium out thereby decreasing fluid
inside the muscle cell. When you increase your sodium intake your body will
compensate by holding more potassium in (increasing intra-muscular fluid) and
increasing the excretion of sodium.
Sodium, potassium and the balance between the two can have a prominent
impact on muscle size and anabolism (increased cellular fluid inside the muscle
cell promotes an anabolic response in muscle tissue) as well as strength
through increase joint leverage. Also, elevated sodium and potassium levels
will tend to prevent soft tissue injuries so common in heavy training.
...Sodium and potassium are regulated by aldosterone. Aldosterone is produced
in the adrenal cortex. Steroids have a direct influence on the adrenal cortex
which also produces cortisol and other glucocorticoids..."
and everything you could ever want to know about potassium balance:
? :) ~Nancy Drew
Personally speaking, the zits have not been too bad. I get one at a time. I do supplement 150mcg zinc daily. I also consume Z-water daily. I've done the salt "push" a handful of times, only when I really needed it(head ache, flu). As a habit, though, I drink salt water daily(in the AM, w/concentrace & lemon)...after that, Z-water.
It's the consistency of the zits that I question. I've had zits that are very clearly "bromides" or perhaps some underlying infection. The pus is yellow, and at times sticky(eeew). But I've had other zits that are just, water(or lymph)....
Once again, my outbreaks have been minimal compared to others I've read on this board. I do wonder if that's because my lymph is flowing freely thanks to the use of Z water and the sparing use of the salt "push".
The other possibility, of course, is that I'm still packing a lot of bromides around...:)
?? thoughts ?