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Anastacia
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,068,559You never give up ! How loooow can you go!
I am here to defend against the tactices claiming distilled water will shorten lifespans ! A rediculous claim and much like defending alternative health against medical trolls have to deal with people who disrupt use scare tactics bait and lie!
I will not let this kind of unfounded incessent attack on something I know has healing benifits go on unchallenged !
The person I am advicing claims she has become concerned about using DW because of fear instilled in her by one or two unknowing unexperienced neophytes who have some kind of personal agenda to prove thier superiority at the expense of truth and good health!
I did not enter this forum until a healing remedy I know for a fact is sound was attacked !
Generally people in the alternative healing community understand that there is a point that we agree to disagree and do not persue something that has sound evidence and much personal testimony of many recieving positive results, that no matter how much second hand suspiscious studies or reports they produce they cannot deny the testimony and will let those who benefit from the healng results continue to do so!!
I am not the one using uncredible articles or studies, scare tactics or other decietful disruptive ploys to attack people who chose to use water purifiers on an ongoing insistent manner! I only defend against this type of abusive behavior!
I do not persue to discredit anything or to force anyone I am only here to defend !
However defending against such an aggressive over the top antagonist really pushes the limits on having a progressive reasonable debate, when so much is challenged and miscued that the aggressor usually accomplishes their purpose by default and disruption and confusion! An unfortunate situation for those trying to heal!
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- Re: Morelies #88706
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,068,594All what's left is to figure who he works for, but, don't we already know ?
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- #69242
16 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,068,511No, its not that I don't "believe" it is. It isn't! I'm sorry, you cannot test pH of water with a pH strip. Buy a Liquid pH Tester kit if you want to understand true pH and water.
But let's play your acid game anyway....
It would not matter if it was slightly acidic, because it matters not what happens before consumption but after the substance is metabolized by the body.
Are you afraid to eat citrus fruits too? I've got news for you, acid fruits have an alkaline effect on the body! As does water. The liver and and other metabolizing organs turn hard water into distilled inside the body anyway, so I guess you should be afraid of that too!
The water debate is over for me. The arguments against distilled water are marginal and completely unproven. The arguments against hard water consumption are medical fact to cause kidney stones, calcium deposits, hardening of the arteries, and stiffness in the bone joints.
To me the issue is more about HOW MUCH water you drink. You really shouldn't be drinking huge amounts of water, but if you do supplement some, distilled is the only practical and rational choice in today's world.
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- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... #27054
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,068,884pbuddy, hello my friend. question:
how does one check the ph from bodily fluids when all fluids from the same have toxins, salts, etc. secreted in them? tomi.
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Not much. The distilled water absorbs more so when it sits around and comes into contact with the carbon dioxide in the air it forms some Carbonic acid in your distilled water. It may acidify your body a little but it will also help break down mineral deposits.
I use both distilled water and filtered water depending on what I'm trying to do.
http://www.morethanalive.com/BK?id=xiApd7m4
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- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... Anastacia
16 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,068,547Thank you.
I am not sure I got the answer that I was looking for but I will try and do more research. I had never heard of water being acidic so my question was probably vague and unclear since I had never heard of it. The word acidic simply scared me into wanting to know more. I drink only my own distilled water with added minerals but this acidic thing is something I had never heard of.
As with all debates, some people have their mind made up no matter what, which means it really isn't a debate but an argument.
For me it can be a debate because I am open to exploring possibilites on both sides, with proof for myself. After all, we are each responsible for our own health and our own steps taken to get that health leads us to the right answers individually.
I will continue with my research. Thank you for your input, this forum is quite informative. :)- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... stoneface
16 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,069,956You are right. Some people use the debate as an argument to force their point of view to the others.
Since couple of days ago I did some fact finding and found in my research the same result what I have known for many years.
It is relatively easy to find and is up to individual to read and absorb.
Distillers have limited use in an environment where one can’t find suitable drinking water and has to make it. What you add to it is a huge problem.
If only we would understand the difference between organic and inorganic.
One of the “secrets” in fruit and vegetable use is that the liquid in them is most likely good for you and non-distilled!
Keep up researching!
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- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... hopinso
16 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,070,036Since life on Earth is carbon based, minerals that are bound with carbon are generally considered organic, while those bound with other elements are inorganic. This is oversimplified, but is a good rule of thumb.
The juices in fruits do, in a sense, contain distilled water. It is better to say the juice contains pure water and minerals that have been restructured by the plant to a smaller molecules in an organic form. The minerals you get from plant sources are those that the body can utilize on a cellular level. Most of the dissolved rock minerals are too large to enter into the tiny capillaries that feed the cells. Those that do make it into the blood stream are often deposited in joints or wind up lining the blood vessels making them narrow and brittle.
People who support the use of distilled water are not saying that minerals are not important, but they realize that not all mineral molecules are created equl, and not all can be assimilated by the body. - #69242
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This is a reply to # 1,070,036--"in fruit and vegetable use is that the liquid in them is most likely good for you and non-distilled"
Technically it is distilled but with carbon-based minerals.- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... stoneface
16 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,070,054We seem to have a difference in opinion hopinso and PBuddy.
No doubt distilled water can be extracted from vegies and fruit, but as it exist there, it would be closer to natural water than distilled water.
To use other words, the water in them is contaminated with organic minerals and some cases unwanted toxins in small way.
We can use distiller and get pure uncontaminated water. But we will have difficulties to add balanced mineral content into it.
It is well known fact that distilled water reduces minerals out of body and therefore harmful to drink in long term.
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This is a reply to # 1,070,075You fail to define what "natural water" is. If you are referring to hard spring water, that is incorrect.
Water inside plants is a combination of condensed water and water that has been metabolized by the plant. Plants are far better chelators than mammals, and so water found inside them is far different than water found from natural springs. In fact, closer to steam distilled in every way except organic mineral content.
It is true distilled water leaches unusable minerals from the body, but I fail to see how that woudl be harmful.- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... stoneface
16 years ago
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This is a reply to # 1,070,327What I meant that with impurities in the water it won’t qualify to be distilled water any longer. We better leave that alone what is “natural water”, because there is no such thing.
The water inside the plants has only one kind of water: Contaminated!
What the contaminants are depends what plant is in question and how it was grown and fed.
If this debate is between distilled water and good quality groundwater, I would rather drink groundwater, because that would give me minerals like calcium, which doesn’t exist in distilled water.
Lack of calcium will not show up when person is getting some of it but not enough.
Prolonged undersupply will lead to osteoporosis and by the time it’s detected, the damage is done and hard to reverse.
This is just one example. There are other examples if we care to look. Lack of magnesium is one of them. Possible side-effects: Many!
Everybody is free to drink what they feel like!
No one of us will not get out of here alive anyhow! ;-(
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Drink what you like but ground water is far worse in regards to contamination. It has not even been filtered by anything with life.
It is the worse choice because not only do you have contaminants in their raw state, you also have large amounts of unusable minerals -- the prolonged effect is arthritis, kidney failure, and hardening of the arteries. My grandparents drank hard water and took calcium supplements their whole life. One died of Rheumatoid Arthritis and the other is still living but is as fragile as a glass statue. If you're still young, you better find the truth soon.
Drinking ground water for mineral nutrition purposes is an absurdity of reason. Do you realize how much hard water you'd have to drink daily to even come close to an adequate supply of calcium? Probably over 7 gallons per day (enough to kill you twice). Anyone who is suggesting they are drinking water for nutritional purposes does not understand the very basics of water composition, human nutrition, or the point of water.
The claim that distilled leaches good minerals is propaganda or misinformation. Quite the contrary in my experience. Distilled water (because of its purity and "slippery" nature) feeds the cell with organic nutrients better than any other water. Ironic huh? Good luck.
- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... stoneface
16 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,070,537I can see where the information is originating in your answer! Did you check the author down the bottom? It is a sales promotion!
No, I’m not young as you indicated in your text. Nor I have arthritis, or any mineral deficiency deceases.
This debate is distilled water V water with mineral content, so when selecting my drinking water, distilled is way down on the list. Of course I would drink distilled water rather than heavily contaminated water, if no other drinks were given.
In my last answer I used a word “contaminated” in relation to water in plants.
It is on longer distilled, but contaminated, because it’s not pure any more, but most likely healthy for you to drink.
This debate between you and me has reached the point of repetition and can rest as far as I am concerned. I guess if we didn’t have a difference in opinion the others would have to do a research themselves. ;)
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If only we would understand the difference between organic and inorganic.
Organic means that something is bound by carbon atoms. When you cook something that is organic it apparently destroys the binding. Of course, when you have a conventional produce it means it has been introduced to something that was made by man such as pesticides and unnatural forms of radiation.
My argument in all of this is that you don't need organic minerals in water; you just need the energetic effects the water being exposed to the elements such as sunlight and minerals. I suspect minerals have frequencies. I believe everything has frequencies that are detrimental or helpful to the body.
- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... hopinso
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- #69242
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This is a reply to # 1,069,956Within debate or argument I learn the most so I'm grateful for it, even from the people I disagree with.
Never take anything personal here. That is a road to ruin and a road block to truth. - Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... traderdrew
16 years ago
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As with all debates, some people have their mind made up no matter what, which means it really isn't a debate but an argument.
How true and that is what I was thinking while I was reading all the info in this water debate. I sometimes have to remind myself that we are all just students and very few people, if any, can really consider themselves masters in these fields. When you consider yourself as a know it all about something, it seems to inhibit the learning curve. Some may also find humility if they learn a new paradigm.
- Re: Sorta afraid to ask but here goe... stoneface
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,070,079In theory we newer stop learning as long as we are willing to listen and keeping our mind open for new opinions.
We are “right “with our opinion, until somebody proves our opinion wrong.
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