I'm new to this and don't have any answers for you but just wondering why you are so stuck on this particular drug. Isn't there something else that is obtainable that will work on liver flukes?
The short answer to your question:
That site lists the drugs that should be taken for liver flukes. I have tried all of them except Bithionol, therefore it is the next thing to try logically.
The long answer to your question:
If you review my post history on curezone you will see that I have been at this for quite a while. I have tried herbs, liver flushing, and most of the drugs.
I suspect you are wondering: "Okay if Lahrok has tried Praziquantel, Nitazoxanide, and Triclabendazole... and those did not work, why doesn't he conclude that he doesn't have liver flukes and forget about Bithionol?"
That would be a valid question however my results when using those drugs suggest otherwise; that I do have liver flukes.
I haven't posted much on curezone lately because I have not had the energy... I literally sleep 16-20 hours a day and the small amount of time I am awake is spent in a fog. I will briefly go over my rationale for pursuing Bithionol... sorry I cannot provide a more thorough answer at this time:
Praziquantel: When I took Praziquantel, at high doses at different times with and without grapefruit juice, there was heavy nausea and vivid movement in my liver. On one occassion, after a night of very painful nausea, I passed 2 or 3 unidentified trematodes in a bowel movement. What's more is I could feel them exiting my system before passing them. I could feel them falling out of my liver and slowly sliding through the intestinal tract. It was a very gross feeling but I do not have the luxury of being grossed-out. I am far past that point unfortunately. This is the most similar picture I could find of what I passed:
They were 3-5 inches
long and 1inch in diameter thick (quite thick.)
The interesting thing is I had never seen them before passing them in a bowel movement but I already had an idea of what they would look like because I can vividly feel lots of them inside of me. When I talk about movement in my liver I am not talking about abstract nudges that could be ascites or something... I am talking about a VIVID feeling of worms crawling around. Just like in the above picture.
Of course I did the logical thing and experimented with Praziquantel a lot more after that seeing that it killed 2 or 3. Well they haven't been dying since and it just seems to phase them for a bit because they move around angrily when I take prazi but don't actually die. I even paused and took a break from prazi thinking it was resistance and started taking it again. I did that several times to no avail. Keep in mind this is at high doses and for long durations too.
Prazi is a broad-spectrum drug with a very long list of parasites
that are effected by it so it is hard to identify what they are by that standard.
Triclabendazole: I have posts in my history detailing my experiences with tricla. Tricla is targeted at fasciola hepatica specifically and I did see some things die when taking it. However Fasciola Hepatica is not the only type of fluke and I believe my main affliction is caused by Opisthorchis viverrini or Clonorchis sinensis.
Nitazoxanide: I believe I have also mentioned my use of nitazoxanide on curezone before but I am not sure. Basically when I take this drug I pass small red straws and mild rumbling in my liver occurs. The red straws are normally considered liver flukes on curezone. After day 2 or so of nitazoxanide I stop passing them and nothing happens. My fatigue doesn't budge.
So I am near 100% sure there is something wrecking serious havoc in my liver because I can vividly feel them... I am just not sure what it is. I assume that it is a liver fluke or some trematode that is resistant to Praziquantel. Bithionol is very effective against trematodes in general so I have much faith in it.
I have been trying to obtain Bithionol for months now.
I want to note the following:
I have had a parasite
test before and it came back negative. I saw a parasite
doctor and she was very unhelpful and told me my fatigue is just in my head and I should go be active...
About 2 weeks after the parasite
test gave negative results I experimented with Black-Walnut
hull tea in an enema. After the enema I passed a 12 inch
tape worm. I continued trying Black-Walnut
hull tea enemas and passed a 14 inch
tape worm about a week later. I kept trying enemas and nothing different happened.
I will list the following because I feel these are very important concepts:
1. I had taken Niclosamide before this but the tape worms were still alive.
2. The parasite test results said I was 100% parasite free. I knew they were lying at the time because I was already going at this for over a year at that point and knew better. Do not ever trust test results.
3. I was not even remotely surprised when I passed the tape worms. I already knew I probably had them. I already knew my fatigue level would not change after passing them and sure enough it didn't. Because I already knew at the time that my problem resides in my liver not my intestine because I can thoroughly feel it. You said you were new to all of this... well I suggest you read the following post I made and save yourself a lot of heartache by learning from my experience: //www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1542939#i1
The paranoid mind would freak out at the foot long tape worms coming out of his body and would have a dire feeling to get rid of them. He would be incredibly grossed out and astonished.
I do not consider myself under the "paranoid mind" category. I was not phased at all upon seeing them. Intestinal parasites
are not my concern and I believe it is impossible to be parasite free. I am only concerned with defeating fatigue and right now I have many reasons to believe that liver parasites
are causing that. Granted there are detrimental tape worm species but many are harmless.
For a more thorough explanation of this mentality look at the thread I linked above. If you are trying to become 100% parasite free you are fighting a battle of paranoia... not a battle in the real world... because that is an impossible task. I have no doubt that I have intestinal parasites as well as 100% of the human population. Not 30%. Not 90%. But 100% of the human population.
Also, as I have said, I do not have the luxury of being grossed out. It is about survival at this point... it has been at that point for a while now. These things control your mood. A psychologist will not want to admit that and will tell you your mood is dictated by the mind for fear of losing his job. In my case at least, I can feel them controlling my mood... I can feel my body trying to digest their hormones and my mood being effected by those hormones. I can feel them getting mad when I take Praziquantel.
I really apologize if I sound mean but I am very frustrated...
I am really most interested in obtaining Bithionol at this point rather than explaining myself. Everytime I inquire about obtaining Bithionol everyone focuses on why I want it or they link me encyclopedia pages that give the definition of Bithionol or banter all day about how it is supposedly dangerous and deadly and illegal. Everyone focuses on everything except my original question: "How can I get Bithionol?" And the original question has been left unanswered for 3+ months now even though it is so simple.
I know that sounds mean to say that but please try to understand.