In her case the doc DID give her a ct scan before (it showed the stones) and after (the stones were gone) and her horrid painful attacks stopped after she passed the stones. Maybe because the stones were in her galllbladder not her liver.
I am curious. You said in your link that the one "stone" was about 1 inch. Was the "stone" hard, brittle or squishy? Rounded or faceted? Bright green? Opaque or translucent? Did it float or sink?
I phoned my sister to make sure about the facts.
It was a ultra sound before and after. Her doctor verified it was gallstones - her doctor is well renowed and respected in the medical community - you may know her Dr. Cynthia Stuart and she lives and works in So. California. She is not the least bit homopathical or natural.
No, never heard of her.
The stone I saw (I went with her to the doctor that day) was dark green and tan, and it floated, and was one of about a dozen of various sizes. She fished a couple out of the toilet and took them to her doctor - she didn't know how hard it was - it looked harder then sqishey to me and it was not opaque in the least. It was shaped sort of like an egg with rounded uneven edges. She aggrees with you that some are from the combination of the oil and lemon. When I flushed, the stones or whatever they were, were all different colors, different every time. I had a lot of tan ones and a few like my sister had - not as big.
These definitely are not gallstones. Every single description, except the different colors, you have given is not of a real gallstone. I did a series of videos on the myth of liver flushing recently. I should have them posted in a few days and you will see what I am talking about.
The flush we used is different than most people use. We did not use epsom salts and less oil (1/4 cup each) and small bottle of malic acid, and 3 or 4 days of drinking apple juice.
Which reminds me about diet... My sister was and had been on a 80% raw and 20% cooked diet. All very healthy things - no white flour, sugar or white rice... lots of fruits and vegetables, nuts, seeds. etc. My sister never had a gall bladder attack again, She had about a dozen extremely painful attacks before she realized what they were... she had never had any. She had been juice fasting and forgetting to end them with a flush.
I didn't bring this up to argue but was curious how it could be explained. I know you don't believe in flushes... I value and hold your opinion in the highest regard, and I know you don't want people to do something that will harm them.
I have an answer for all of this. What she was experiencing is called pseudolithiasis (fake gallstones). It looks just like real gallstones on an ultrasound. This can resolve on its own, and even consuming oil can help clear it up since it is sludge, not true gallstones. So it will appear as if the person passed real gallstones as the sludge is expelled even though they did not have any real gallstones to begin with.
I have seen this "sludge" in deceased patients, it can also contain very small sand like grains, which are the beginnings of actual gallstones. So getting the sludge out of the gall bladder is a good thing.
I was talking with a friend today about this subject, he is a medical doctor, but one that believes in natural medicine.
He put out the idea that a very low fat diet, (as is commonly promoted by mainstream medicine), may be responsible for the formation of this gallbladder sludge. Without an adequate intake of good oils/fats, particularly those fats high in plant sterols, the gallbladder does not push out enough bile, (oils and fats cause the gallbladder to contract) and the bile can become stagnant, leading to the formation of this sludge. Its just his theory, but from my own study on this, this theory has merit.
What do you think about this theory Hv.
I totally agree that this is one factor. This is why I like people to have small amounts of oil with meals. If the bile becomes stagnant it can easily supersaturate with cholesterol leading to cholesterol precipitation.
There are other factors though such as fasting or crash dieting, the body's own hormones, pharmaceutical hormones including the so-called bioidenticals, lack of dietary fiber, etc.
It should be called something else. 'Sludge removal' if you will.
Yes, that would a better term. And especially better than "liver flush" since the gallbladder they are supposedly flushing is not the liver.
The stone she took to her doctor looked like a gallstone, and acted like a gallstone and was mistakenly taken for a gallstone by a doctor that should have known..
Most doctors have probably never seen a real gallstone.
if she wouldn't have flushed it out she would have had gallstone surgery. She will never go for it.... She does coffee enemas too. She thinks she knows better and anybody else is a quack. A lot of people are this way... there is no changing them.
It amazes me as to how people come up with this stuff. Did someone say I really don't like the taste of coffee but I want the caffeine rush so I am going to squirt it up my butt instead of drinking it?
Hv, enemas and colonic irrigation seem to be very popular these days, but I wonder if they could cause the bowel to become lazy, much like the constant use of laxatives.
I can understand the short term or single use of an enema to relieve constipation, or to deliver a substance when the person is unable to take it by mouth, but what I don't understand is why anyone would want to do repeated enemas or colonic irrigation for issues that can be treated in other ways.
What are your thoughts on this.
I think part of it is that people tend to think if something is too simple that it cannot work. It is like with the Rife units. A simple $100 fixed frequency unit will work fine, but people would rather spend thousands on one with lots of bells and whistles just because it looks more complicated and high tech.
With the coffee enemas I think that it has a lot to do with the myth that people think the caffeine absorbed from the colon somehow will not adversely effect the adrenals in the same way that it will when drunk. I have been in this debate before with people. Caffeine is caffeine though. No matter is oral or rectal it is going to have the same effects.