Sorry to hear about your struggle with this, but its great to know I'm not alone in this battle. I will say at times my tongue looks pretty good, but most of the time it looks pretty bad.
I know in the past when I've used Sea Salt and let it sit on my tongue for a minute or so, that it dramatically clears my tongue. However this is a band-aid and it usually comes back about 12-14 hours later in full force. Does your Sea Salt have iodine in it? I thought most of the Sea Salt's are iodine free? What's your diet like? As I mentioned I'm a heavy heavy animal protein eater. I wonder if HCL would help me?
I'm fairly certain that dysbiosis is the issue here. Too much bad bacteria having a party on my tongue, with no clean up crew. Yeah I agree, the liver is also something to look at and I know Accupunture docs always feel the liver is behind most of the symptoms they see.
To be honest I never really paid attention to it prior to this past year when I started to have some issues. I will say I NEVER noticed having bad breath or a metallic taste in my mouth like I do now. So I'm pretty sure this just came about over the past 9 months or so.
I got mine after I had food poisoning in Hawaii (I took levaquin too) and then my naturopathic dr. put me on another natural antibiotic when I got back vs. building my immune system back up with probiotics..(don't go to him anymore). Anyways I've tried anti-parasitic meds., anti-fungals, natural antibiotics, okra pepsin, digestive aids, many probiotics, fermented foods, you name it...I've tried it.
Hmm interesting that none of that has worked for you as several of these were on my list of things to try. Have you done any liver flushes? This really sucks, and it bums me out from time to time because I have no clue what the answer is.....
Furthermore I'm 100% certain it is NOT thrush based on the location of my coating and doing some careful analysis of people with candida of the mouth online. I have no coating on the roof of my mouth, my inner cheeks or underneath or on the sides of my tongue. Just a big blob of white right in the middle and towards the back outter edges. Secondly its not cottage cheesey, its somewhere in between thin and thick. And it doesn't really respond to a tongue scraper that well.
I too feel pretty healthy but have this silly white tongue. The naturopathic dr. I was going to before said he thinks I have a "deep" bacterial infection in one of my organs...wouldn't I be feeling worse if I did? Any thoughts are appreciated.
Yeah I honestly feel great! I have no digestive issues, I get great sleep, I workout 5-6x a week, generally have a very good mood, have little if any stress (just this damn tongue! haha) and eat very clean 100% organic food almost all the time. I'm also well hydrated 80-95oz of water a day. Something is definitely wrong, but figuring it out has been mind boggling.
I've also thought perhaps I'm deficient in a key vitamin or mineral. Vitamin D comes to mind since I don't go out in the sun much. I don't take a multi-vitamin, but I take a b-complex, a, c, e, niacin and magnesium supplement daily. I'll look into switching to a multi-vitamin and seeing if that makes a difference.
I decided to respond to your message b/c it sounds like you are dealing with the same frustration I am over this.
Thanks for the reply, I appreciate your feedback and would like to stay in contact with you as you try new methods to get rid of this nasty thing.
I'd really like to know what your daily diet consists of? Maybe we can add up something that might be contributing to the maddness.
I could be wrong, but if it was candida in my mouth, wouldn't the thrush be all over my mouth?
No. I only ever had whiteness on top of my tongue.
Here's the weird thing though about the candida, I don't have any symptoms of it other than my tongue. And when I took the stool test I had already been off the strict strict candida diet for a month. I have been eating about 120-150 grams of carbs a day from things like quinoa, sweet potatoes, brown rice pasta without any issue. I know some people eat those items on their candida diet, but I was incredibly strict and just stuck to meat/veggies for 4 months.
IMO, intestinal candidiasis is not an overgrowth of Candida, as is popularly believed, but a fungal infection of the bowel wall with hyphal Candida. A stool test only checks for the yeast form of Candida, which, IMO, is commensal. A stool analysis does not diagnose pathognic fungal/hyphal Candida. So, IMO, stool tests are useless for Candida.
Interesting that you mentioned Biotene as I found a bottle of it unopened at my mom's house and started using it a couple nights ago. I'll use it and take note of how my tongue looks shortly before and and after.
Use the Biotene regularly after each meal. It will not have an instant effect, but after a few days you may notice your tongue is less white. I doubt Biotene has enough lactoferrin in it to clear up a white tongue, but you may notice improvement. Biotine has been shown to clear up resistant oral thrush when added to a triazole antifungal.
If I do have a candida issue, would a probiotic help get rid of the tongue coating?
Unlikely. I tried acidophilus and it did nothing to my white tongue.