Yes some doctors approve of the flush. Over the years I have gotten 2 personal e-mails, one from Florida and from Canada, where the doctor suggested to try the flush first.

I haven't done the flush yet (will do my first onethis week!), but have been doing lots of research on the flush - and from what I've heard a flush is not a one time cure-all; it seems like more of a liver-gallbladder management system. So, someone believes in going under the knife to remove these things will need to do it again. They WILL come back.

What makes more sense is preventative measures on a regular basis, i.e. diet or flushes; there seem to even be ways to manage on a milder versions of the flush...

I think what your surgeon is saying doesn't conflict with whether or not these flushes work. In fact, it's really good corroboration that people do need to take this stuff seriously!

The surgeon is probably correct for some but not all cases of gallstones. Some biliary problems are caused by a single one off event like an infection, virus, drugs, injury, etc; and once they are eradicated they can be gone for ever. Some conditions like "biliary sludge" can fluctuate and sometime disappear on their own without the invention of anything. However, the larger majority of gallstone problems are caused by inappropriate food, lifestyle, stress, being pregnant, the birth control pill, HRT etc. Consequently if you don't make lifestyle changes in conjunction with the Liver Cleansing they have every opportunity to form again.

The surgeon is in some way re-enforcing the philosophy of the forum but the story misses out the fact that stones can form even after the removal of the gallbladder because the origins of the problem lie in the liver.

"Liver long and prosper"

Telman

Well Telman is right --Here are 2 posts from the Healthboards page under liver disorders anwering an OP of his pain under his rib cage---------------------
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Re: Pain Just Below the Ribcage

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Welcome to my world!

I have had pain below my rib cage on the right side for the last 7 years. I have had Ultrasounds, CT Scans, Hida Scan...

My Hida Scan numbers came back at 4%, which is very low. So I had my Gallbladder removed even though I didn’t have traditional symptoms.

One year later, that annoying pain is still there. Might even be a little worse since my surgery.

I have had some liver enzyme issues thinking maybe something is wrong with my liver creating the pain. But, my numbers are very low and track up and down. If it was liver, it would have to be really swollen and my numbers do not reflect that.

The pain after awhile makes me feel like a hypochondriac, guess I should just live with it at this point.

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lcouch0936
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Re: Pain Just Below the Ribcage

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i know what yall are talking about.i just strated having pain in my right side about 4 weeks ago.but now there is a med size lump under my ribcage.and i dont know what is going on i am going to the dr in a few days to see if he can find out what is going on with me i am only 33 years old and i had my gallballder took out last year.so i know it cant be that.is any one eles out there got a lump under you ribcage on the right side?and i have a lot of pain also on the same side if there is anyone out there know what is going on will u please let me know thanks....lisa



These people have no idea to do a Liver Flush but they will live with clogged livers intill ?

Most people sitting in a surgeon's office are those of us that go to the Dr for a pill to make me feel better, treating the symptom not the actual dis-ease.

Taking my very sick gallbladder out would most probably have gotten rid of that awful pain! What would it have done for the fact that I wasn't digesting my food??? A lousy bandaide at best!!!

I can't help but believe that I stopped a series of very dangerous health problems.