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Hey guys.
I’ve been flushing on and off for about 10 years but went full on with it last year flushing every two weeks. I just can’t get rid of this blockage I feel in my gallbladder area. A numb dull pain. My flushes always produce great results but this pain comes back very quickly and is so disheartening.
I’ve been reading a few other post and sounds like I might have one big stone that is causing this to happen.
My plan atm is to go very hard on malic acid for two weeks (maybe 2tblsp per day) to hopefully soften what might be a big stone there.
What do you guys think? Any advice or ideas would be hugely appreciated!
I’m so grateful for the benefits that come after each flush but tired of the roller coaster of getting a bit better then going down hill fast once I get blocked up again.
Alright guys thanks for your time and thanks in advance for any advice!
Andy
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This is a reply to # 2,431,914I've had excellent results releasing stones with gold coin grass tincture. I take 3 dropper fulls throughout the day. I also take a cayenne capsule once/day to help carry the tincture into the gallbladder/liver. The result is I can physically feel my liver and gallbladder opening up and releasing stones/sludge. I've been on the malic acid for a few months with very limited success. For me the gold coin works way better. Here's the one I use:
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- Re: Pain in gallbladder area after o... Andy-luke
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,431,921Hey Steve888,
Really appreciate your advice. Thanks a lot! I will jump on that ASAP. Also looking into chanca piedra, it looks promising.
Thanks again,
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,431,929I didn't have much success with chanca compared to the gold coin grass.
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Andy
I found Gold Coin Grass to be very effective at reducing the burning pain I associated with inflammation in the gallbladder bile ducts. I took it as a tea made from super fine powder. It was not a cure and a few weeks after stopping it the problems returned. Changing the way I eat was just as good as any herbal regime. Smaller meals of better quality food.
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This is a reply to # 2,431,958Thanks a lot guys. Will definitely get some gold coin grass ASAP.
Really appreciate it! I’m making a powerful tea out of Chinese bitters atm and that seems to be making a difference. I’ve heard Chamomile tea is a good softener too. Looking forward to the next flush.
Has anyone here completely emptied there liver/gallbladder of stones? Andreas said he did and he looked very healthy! Thanks again
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This is a reply to # 2,431,921Hi there. I'm up to my 13th flush. Still waiting for the darned gallbladder to get in the game (although I did release one stone last time around that was nearly white through and through, consistency of hard putty, not waxy). You mentioned cayenne pepper. Can you elaborate on how it helps with the GCG supplementation? I agree that malic acid is a dud.
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This is a reply to # 2,432,046Cayenne pepper acts as a carrier of any herb you combine it with. It open up the blood vessels and helps the gold coin grass go deeper into the liver/GB.
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These white stones as described sound like they are primary enterolith that have formed, usually in the ilium, from mucus. The upper bowel is irritated by something, either dysfunction of lifestyle and is protecting itself with mucus. When this mucus reaches the ilium it precipitates into hard putty like formation.
I had them and showed them to my entero-gastrologist who explained what he thought they were. I was later diagnosed with a condition called CIPO. Note: that is you do have a bowel dysfunction affecting the ilium it will always result in secondary biliary problems because the recirculation of bile as been disrupted.
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This is a reply to # 2,432,057Hi Telman,
That's very interesting. I had no idea there was such a thing as an enterolith.
To further clarify, my motility is excellent. No constipation issues. I seem to have visceral pain caused by an overheated liver and cholestasis. I was finally diagnosed with mobile Gallstones a year ago. Most of my problems are emotional in origin (anger) but also lifestyle. I gave up a modest but chronic alcohol habit which has helped.
The object I saw was more like the ones you described after your 16th flush, which came out a day or more later (mine did, too) and seemed to originate in the gallbladder. Other people have also described these suddenly appearing after many flushes, kind of like opaque wall putty. But who knows where it came from? It's astonishing how diverse the garbage is, once we begin removing it.
Cheers!
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There are also secondary enteroliths that form in the biliary system. The composition of the bile isn't quite right and the protective chemical are low so that the surfaces of the bile ducts and gallbladder are irritated causing a cox 2 reaction. Cox 2 or to give it its full name cyclooxygenase-2 is an enzyme responsible for inflammation and pain. You can turn of the pain with Cox-2 inhibiters but there are natural alternatives.
I have thought that when ones liver-flushes it not only clears out the garbage but also any protective mucus lining the bile ducts, exposing the bile ducts to the irritation of "defective bile" and this causes an increase in pain a few days later when the bile returns to full strength.
Keep well
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This is a reply to # 2,432,450Primary enteroliths most certainly can consist of precipitated bile but may also e carbonate or other salts in combination. Secondary enteroliths are from the biliary system so commonly are bile. The formation is a clue whether they are faceted or bulbous. The only certain way of knowing would be to have them analysed. I have read about white stones forming in the base of the gallbladder and there are pictures:
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This is a reply to # 2,432,458Four years (4 yr.) later, I would like to thank you for your most helpful reply. - Hempseed.
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