Hi ~S~,

I don't know what led up to your being embraced by God's love,
so it would be difficult to say yes your experience was or no your experience was not a near death experience. But yes or no, I believe your experience was a profound experience and a gift of immeasureable worth. Embraced by God's love, surrounded by an infinite depth of unconditional love, it appears to me that you experienced the same God I experienced... but I also experienced a life review and a tunnel experience that is probably more typical of a NDE. That doesn't make your experience any less extraordinary or life changing though. My guess is that you and God arranged for that experienece before you were born; you were given the gift of knowing the true nature of God's love because of a special purpose that you contracted with creation to perform and so you must have needed to know the true nature of God's love to fulfill the plan you came to fulfill and learn the lessons you came into this world to learn. What your experience does not do is do all of your learning you came here to learn for you. You just have an advantage of knowing God's loving nature that others may have to learn in other ways but what you do with the advantage you have of knowing God's Love is clearly up to you.

The greatest problem I have had, after my NDE, is that I don't pay enough attention to taking care of physical needs and I am a kind of "do good" junkie. I spend most of my life trying to help others and I often don't help those who are closest to me the way they need to be helped with their material needs. I have lived on nothing much else but God's love for most of my life since my NDE and that often looked like abject poverty to the world. I am much more balanced now, after years of attempting to become more grounded, but even now I am still tempted to brush off all of my material needs and live on God's pennies from heaven and gifts again. God will let you do that but it sure makes life rocky for those you surround yourself with.

Other's don't know God the way you and I do and to them, our peculiar detachment from the material world may make us expect too much from people who don't know what we know about what is important to God? Other people play with darkness because they came here to learn those lessons and we should be okay with that for others to play out those dramas. Those dramas may look like death and dying but death & dying will die some day. Living an unconditional life and not expecting others to believe what you believe makes it much easier to handle life after knowing God's purpose for you and others. We may think our purpose after knowing God's love is to perform some kind of action but maybe our purpose is to just be a witness of God's love in this world. I can't seem to shut my mouth up about it... I can hardly enter a conversation without trying to express that love in my limited way.

One thing is certain...My NDE didn't stop my heart from being broken...my heart has been broken over and over...that is the nature of things that can be broken....but our souls are made of love & light and they will never be broken or destroyed. They can be shrouded in darkness for little while though...I sense that you feel disappointed that God allows darkness to rule the lives of people you love and you feel regret that God would allow sickness, dying, and death to occur in the world you have chosen to live in? I know, like you, that God is Love but knowing God's Love doesn't make others know that lesson before they are ready to learn that lesson. Some souls may learn the lessons they come here to learn by allowing darkness to rule their lives... Each of us is on our own journey....

All of us may allow dark and light spirits to attach themselves to our souls, while we live. Many or all of these dark and light spirits in our lives, we invited to be with us, as we travel through this life to learn the lessons those spirits could teach us... I believe I have the spirit of my Grandfather(Pa Paw) with me. I also allow other beings, including angelic beings, into my life. I once upon a time needed huge angels to protect me because I lived in fear of huge dark forces that were in my life... but the darkness that I fought has mostly retreated from my life... even now those powerful angels are quiet and I most often hear the voice of God in the quiet still voice that surrounds me when I take the time to stop & listen. Sometimes angels or God speaks in an audible voice though....like one time when I was riding a motorcycle and a voice told me to change lanes...around the curve in the road was a post turned sideways.. It is nice to know that God still needed me and intervened...but God wants us to mostly learn our lessons without too much intervention...Other times I have experienced angelic beings as laughing joyful children dancing about me... There are many ways that God communicates with us... if only we would listen...To a rational or material person that might sound crazy but I believe that the substance of spirit is what is eternal and real, while the material world is a fading illusion.

I believe, if we limit what God's expression of love is to one experience... then we are limiting what God can be in our lives. God is so much more than an experience... God is our greatest expectation of love in every instance... When you experience now... as love...and have buried your past & fear for nothing in your future...then you have arrived in a good place...and a place where you can truly become the expression of love that you came here to become... Knowing that God is love right here and right now can help you with your life but if you want to play with fear and darkness then that is up to you... Fearing your past or being afraid of the future is a game I play from time to time as well... If you want to play with fear, knowing God is the opposite of fear...then that is okay too... but know you are doing it with your own free-will...remember....you know that God is love...
I sometimes do the same thing... but you know the truth....if you want to play with others in the darkness...know it is your choice...God's Love is as close as a prayer or as far away as fear... either way...know you are right where you chose to be....long before you were born... don't you remember?

still becoming...rudi

"Thats God and the puppy is us...mankind." so true...so true...you are right but we take life so seriously... if they only knew...

May I respond to your writing? Does it really matter if your experience was a NDE or was it one amazingly fine gift from God? I go into the depth of my heart and feel God (Love) every moment I am alive. I have fallen in love with that Love.

A saying that I saw one time was "Life is mysterious, don't take it so serious."

Now about your friend: in my situation, it was a little dog that saved me when I was in the head on collision. She was between me and the steering wheel, in a place where she had never laid in the 12 years that I had her. I couldn't cry when they told me she died because my chest was crushed. It takes your chest to really cry. So a couple of months later I was thinking about her and getting ready to shed a tear and .....her little spirit came to me and said ----- "I am out here having all these adventures and when you get upset, I have to come back and cheer you up. Get over it so I can get back to my adventures." I am saying all this because your friend is probably out there having a good time exploring and flying around. I can tell you that if you look in your heart, he will be there smiling and saying Oh, heck you know I love you. And then off he'll go.

Also, life has ups and downs just to make you the person you are today. Sometimes I say, everything and everybody has pluses and minuses, but in reality they are all pluses, because of all the lessons we learn are teaching us that every thing on the planet is temporary and the only permanent thing is , is Love. So I have just fallen in love with Love and exude this everywhere I go. I find that people respond to me differently and if they are not nice I am still Love. This is when you want to remember the Love you felt from God and exude this energy.

I just finished reading your story. The first thing I thought of was that you were so blessed to have experienced it some twenty years ago!! How wonderful for you. The second thing I thought of was myself, of course, and my own ideas about God. It's amazing that you described this experience so full, so descriptively, even after so long. Do you know what that means? I think it means that you truly had a spiritual experience, one that should and does live within you forever. You had what most of us wish for, a spiritual connection to our God, our higher being, our existence. What a blessed event it must have been. Anyway, I think that your dream was a message, of course. You were chosen to share that message, and you did, right now, with Curezone! Thank you. I too, feel a closeness to our Lord, but nothing has happened to me even close to as amazing that you experienced. But that is what faith is all about right? The ability to believe in that which is not something our human minds can fullly grasp. I believe you still have a profound message to give to all those you meet. This forum is a great network. Many will benefit from your experience. I know I did. Thank you.

Hi Saint,
Your message prompted a few thoughts. First let me say I have never had and NDE, but would consider it very interesting to have. Secondly, that you cannot prove the existence of God, The One, Universal Mind, or whatever you may choose to call it. But, then, you can't prove that that entity doesn't exist. So, what I am presenting is of course, opinion, mine, and should be viewed in that way.

I tend to have a metaphysical bend of mind, I don't attend any church, but have visited all kinds of churches, synogogues,and places of worship, since I have interest in that area. I have also developed my own way of thinking about things, from my own experiences, thoughts, and integration of my thinking. For me they are right, for you..... that is up to you to decide.

The word belief means to accept without proof. So, there are many beliefs, very individual. Do I believe in an infinite being, intelligence, or God,... yes. Can I describe that entity,... no. I don't believe the human min, (at present) has the capacity to fully understand or concieve the extent of that entity. However, I do believe that we have the ability innately to do so. The level of extending ourunderstanding is dependent upon our current level of knowledge and understanding. By that I mean one needs a base of knowledge, experience references in order to understand things of a different or higher level. For example you can sit down and try to discuss differential and integral calculus, or quantum theory with a 6 month old baby. You are not going to get very much response from the baby, because the baby does not as yet have certain skills, understandings, and foundation for understanding. However, the baby does have the innate 'ability' to do so, but as yet it is undeveloped. It is my thinking that we, and of course I mean the most intelligent of us, are as yet babies, in terms of what there is to learn and know.

I am a believer in reincarnation. I believe we have lived before, and have 'come in the flesh' again. I also believe there is a purpose to incarnating, which is relative to what each of us has the right to become. I believe we each are responsible for who we are and what we become. I also believe that we are much more than this physical envleope we now reside in. Can I prove this? Of course not, it is all opinion, my opinion. Should you believe it, of course not. You are fully responible for what you accept, believe, and act on.

However, in my life time I have has some experiences which I cannot, in anyway verify to anyone. For for example, are there such things as ghosts, spirits, entities? I've never seen one. However, I have seemingly talked to some through a person who claimed to be a 'medium'. Now, why do I bring this up? The reason is that on those occasions there were disturbances in the surroundings of the people who were present, in houses and places. And when I did what I did, the disturbances were no longer present, and the people who inhabited these homes and places were no longer bothered by any disturbance and could go along more freely in their lives. So, I have direct experience in the removal of what you might call ghosts. How do I know it worked? Well, of myself I saw nothing. I did what I was internally led to do. And after haveing done that, there were no more disturbances, from direct feedback from the persons involved. I have done so with the aid of my High Self Council and my guides. I don't actually go looking for these situations, they seem to come my way from time to time.

So, yes, I do believe in the spiritual, the unseen aspect of each one of us. One of my beliefs, another one I cannot prove, or disprove, is that we all were meant to be full and equal compaion to the creative forces, or God, or however you wish to call it. We each have a spiritual inheritance, an innate aspect of our being, that is far beyond what we normally consider ourselves to be. It is within, it is hidden, it is individual, and it is for each to find in their own way. It is for each to accept or deny, with the resulting responibility for that acceptance or denial. Each has their own path to travel, and no one can walk it for them. It is a path of learning of who we truly are. If you choose to think about that, you will see the enormity of it. A companion is one who is on the same level, otherwise they are not true companions.

I could say more, but I think I will leave it where it is, for now. I have had other experiences along this line which have led me to think and interpret certain things for myself. You must think and interpret for yourselves. I hope in some way this aids you in reflecting upon who and what you are.

Love in the Spirit
HalF