Reaching the end of the line... 
omega2000
17 years ago
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Hi there everyone. I hope that someone out there might be able to help me out.
My stats:
31 yrs
Male
6'0"
255lbs.
Like many people I have tried many different diets. The weight has come off and always come back and then some afterwards. The past few years I have been eating a very healthy diet: lots of fresh, organic fruits and vegetables. Little or no red meat - replaced with fish or chicken or turkey (organic or natural fed when possible). I have completed eliminated processed foods, white flour, White Sugar , fried foods, etc. from my diet. I have been tested for food allergies and have identified which foods I am allergic or sensitive too. I have found out I am lactose intolerant and I am gluten sensitive. Therefore I have eliminated dairy and breads from my diet. If I do have breads I make sure that they do not contain gluten and are sprouted (Ezekiel bread, flax breads, etc.). I have added a source of fibre to my diet which includes both soluable and insoluable sources of fibre. I have never eaten much junk food/fast food, so that was an issue that I didn't have to address. It has been at least 5 years since I last ate at Mcdonalds and even that time it was the first burger I had eaten in years.
I have had my thyroid tested by two different doctors at different times and through different labs and the values for T3, T4 and TSH are all within normal values. I have been tested for parasites, etc. and nothing has shown up.
I excercise regularly: gym, biking, hiking, yoga, etc. Several years ago I managed to go from 265 down to abnout 205, but it all has come back and I definitely am not cheating - I rarely stray from healthy eating enough for it to be an issue. When I lost all that weight I was working out strenously 6 times a week... which was a very tiring physically for me.
I have also done some cleansing as well as colonics (which seems to have been a waste of money because nothing ever happened during the session).
I do not have many sources of stress in my life, as I am able to deal with it through meditation and other stress relieving activities.
Seriously I am at the end of my rope... I don't know what to do or where to go and I'm tired of being fat when I see so many of my family and friends living and eating things that aren't healthy and they still are able to maintain their weight (we'll see how long they can keep that up for though).
Any insights or suggestions that any of you maybe able to share would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... amberlynn72
17 years ago
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I came across something interesting .....i am a slender woman but not lean.... 5ft 7 inches 126 pds but 28% body fat so almost a 1/3 of me is fat...i have racked my brain to figure out how the heck to reduce the fat?? i have done alot of things including the master cleanse,...currently i am zapping ...and doing bowel cleanses along with EFT ...but i found something called http://www.bodyfatguide.com/ he mentioned to do slow aerobic such as walking ....and such just moving around...by doing strenous aerobic activity you are burning glycogen and losing lean body mass and not much fat if any...we burn fat by doing every day activities so this makes sense also a reduced calorie diet on these days.. no lifting weights and building muscles on fat burning days .... now on days ur lifting weights..u want to up your calories a few hundred more for the day to build the muscle..no aerobics....well thats all i know i am dying to get the book...but while i am waiting i will at least try this out... i hope this helps ya and remember no diet food..diet food makes u fat....diet soda etc etc.... u didnt mention if u drank diet soda and what not. i hope that site will help you i think it will good luck dont give up!
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,018No I don't drink any diet sodas or anything with artifical sweeteners in them. I do not like them and I believe that they are very unhealthy. I do lift weights during the week, but I use lighter weights and higher reps. I already have plenty of muscle mass, so I am not interested in building what I have. I walk at least an hour a day. During my lunch hour and also running errands during office hours. This is in addition to the other exercise I get during my spare time and weekends.
- Re: Reaching the end of the line... amberlynn72
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,019maybe you are doing too much take a look at that link i sent you. last year i worked out 6 days a week ..one hour of cardio on each of those days ..lifting weights 3 to 4 days a week...and i never lost weight the entire year....i eat all organic most of the time also.......i had surgery so now for some reason i can lose weight go figure...lol...but still the fat doesnt leave:( so i am trying this out here what do i got to lose huh? good luck i know it's frustrating i have been there many times especially after childbirths ...boy that was tough 4 yrs and losing very lil weight no matter what i did...whew!! but u seem to be on the right track so u have no where else to go but to lose weight...you can also try to change your routine a bit ....as well do u think it is possible ur calories are not reduced enough to lose fat?? that could be it.. i dont know i try to helpAdvertisement
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,020Thanks for the input... I do try to change things up and I do not take in a lot of calories. I have been over my diet with my doctor and dietician/nutritionist and as far as they can tell my diet is ok.
- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
17 years ago
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... Geminilady
16 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,019Is there the possibility that your blood type is O if it is I will get back to you with info that will help.
- Re: Reaching the end of the line... amberlynn72
17 years ago
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
17 years ago
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... kathryn101
17 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 67,017omega...I have read all your posts and also the ones from amberlynn and it seems to
me it would almost have to be your thyroid. I know you've been tested...but the
sad news is...regular doctors know very little about our thyroids. And doctors
and even dieticians and nutritionists know even less about diet and nutrition.
What a shame THAT is. On our local news...they have a dietician/nutritionist come
on almost every day and tell us this or that about nutrition...and many times, I
laugh just listening to her...because you can tell she was taught nutrition in a
'medical environment' where they just don't know their heads from a hole in the
ground about much.
It doesn't matter what your blood works says about your thyroid...it's what your
BODY says about your thyroid. Take your temperature...first thing in the morning...
and see if it is below normal. If it is...it's your thyroid. Even though all the
books say take it even before you get out of bed (you're supposed to shake down
the therometer and put it beside your bed the night before...and take your temp
before you even get out of bed the next morning)...but mine is so low...I can take
it any time of the day...and it is drastically low. But try that...you can try it
in the middle of the day, or just when you find this...but if it reads normal...try
it again first thing in the morning before you get out of bed and see what you find.
And even though you're on a great diet...you really could be getting too many calories. So check that out to be sure.
Have you heard about the "Fat Man Walking"? He started in California last April
to walk across America to lose weight. He really hasn't done well at all...and by
the pictures I've seen...I don't think he's lost much weight. He could have put
that time to much better use...and been with his family to boot. You can check him
out at http://www.fatmanwalking.com He should be at least in Missouri by now...I'll have
to go check....but even with all that walking...he was NOT losing weight the last
time I checked.
Do you want to say what a typical day of eating is like for you? It's up to you...
I'd like to help if I can. kathryn
- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
17 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 67,022Hi Kathryn,
Thanks for the response. The suggestion of checking the basal body temperature is a good one and I have been doing that for sometime. I have taken it both orally and in the axillary location in the arm pit. I tracked it for some time and the resulting temperatures were in the normal ranges for both areas. I keep a thermometer on my night stand and I take my temperature as soon as I wake up.
A typical day for me starts with a glass of water with apple cider vinegar, a fruit salad made with fresh organic fruits. I usually take a snack for mid morning and this is usually a piece of fruit or a muffin with flax in it. My lunch is usually a fresh salad with lots of organic vegetables.
I drink lots of filtered water during the day (extra on days when I go to the gym), lots of herbal teas (Chamomille, Rooiboos, Green tea). I also make my own juice or if I am lazy then I buy good quality organic juices from my local health food store.
In the afternoon I usually have some fruit or vegetables for a snack (e.g. carrot sticks or some celery). In the evenings I make myself something for dinner which is usually fresh fish (whatever is available or in season... living in the Pacific Northwest means that there is always lots of fresh salmon :-) ), chicken or poultry. I will usually have a salad with that or some lightly steamed vegetables. I rarely eat red meat and if I do I make sure it is lean and if possible organic or naturally fed.
As a rule I try to eat as early as possible and do not eat after 7.30-8.00 at the very latest. In the evening I do usually have another cup or two of tea.
A couple of times a week I make a fruit smoothie with some hemp protein powder. I have also added digestive enzymes to my diet as well.
Thanks!
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... Geminilady
16 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,027From what you listed you are eating fruits and vegetables all day until you have your supper and than you add fish or poultry, once in a while red meat with more vegetables lightly steamed.
I am wondering if your brain thinks you are starving your body and is going to the glucose in your pancreas and turning it into fat so you can survive. I know you eat thru the day but everything your eating is mostly water and is eliminated within an hour after eating it. The meat is probably giving you the energy from the protein, because it may have to turn into carbohydrates by the body so you can do everything you do. You sound like your really built well, but concerned with the weight and fat in your body.
Are you eating nuts, seeds, beans legumes,? Do you eat 8-12 oz meat (your choice) a day? Are you eating sweet potatoes at all? Do you put olive oil on your salads or vegetables, You need this for your body to work well.
Leave me know what you think of my suggestions. Best to you
- Re: Reaching the end of the line... Geminilady
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- Re: Reaching the end of the line... omega2000
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- Some options you might consider #53495
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,017Everybody's body is different and responds to different techniques. There's the Warrior Diet, which basically details easy fasting during the day(with water and fruits) and after working out in the afternoon/evening, eating a days worth of calories in the evening. It's pretty consistent with the conclusions that many people have found out that giving their digestive system time to rest is really beneficial. Secondly, if you can't tolerate gluten, how much fiber are you getting in your diet? Maybe an source of fiber from oats/amaranth/quinoa would help, because your body will cling to fat if your nutrition isn't balanced. Also, maybe raw protein might help. I've found raw egg to be very balancing. You can find details at http://www.wewant2live.com.
Just some suggestions for you to think on, see if they might work for you.Advertisement
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- Re: Some options you might consider omega2000
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,030Thanks for the tips. I will definitely check them out. I am taking a fiber supplement (Fibersmart) and also probiotics and enzymes to help with things. I will check out the website you mentioned too. Thanks!
- Re: Some options you might consider #37896
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,031hello,
had you stop taking anti-biotics? unless you are eating 100% organic produced...
Remember, what makes chicken and other livestock fat is the Antibiotics there getting everyday, and we are on top of the food chain....- Re: Some options you might consider omega2000
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,032Yes that is an excellent point. I have never really taken too many prescription drugs, although I would always take the over-the-counter stuff for headaches, colds, flu, etc. So I've tried to avoid that sort of stuff when I am not well and use natural remedies on the rare occassion I am not well. When I am eating meat, poultry, etc. I try to eat organic when possible, and naturally fed (anti-biotic free) at the very least!
- Re: Some options you might consider quilter1052
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,033In my surfing I came across some info about sick building syndrom connecting it to weight gain and diabetes. If interested http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/learnmore/obesityresearch.cfm
I am not advocating this but found it interesting. We have had mold in our house and my husband has trigeminal neuralgia so was looking for him... also need to lose weight myself... This is not holistic medicine but talking about off-label use of prescription medication but I still found it interesting.
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- Re: Some options you might consider #53495
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,038I wonder if there's a holistic way to remove toxins likey say. Most advocate flushing to improve the bodys ability to remove toxins, and just avoiding toxins like pesticides on food, but I wonder if there's a herb or food that could help, like cilantro and heavy metals. Hmm.
- Re: Some options you might consider ribbot
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,039I took a ton of holistic supplements that were supposed to clean the toxins from my body. One for metals in my mouth, one for pesticides, one for this and that---I was even given a pill called Anger Release that was made of different roots and barks.
I felt no different after taking them--just a little (lot) lighter in the wallet area.
The flushes have done way more for me than any pill or drop I was given.
JMO :)- Re: Some options you might consider quilter1052
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,040thanks for both your messages... as I just said, this is another point to consider when trying to figure out WHY I'm fat and/or can't seem to lose it...
- Same Boat - Here's what I am doing aggiepoke
17 years ago
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This is a reply to # 67,041Never really had a problem with weight. Incorrectly diagnosed with Depression and spent 5 years on several antidepressants. Started noticing Antibiotics weren't fixing minor problems. Started gaining weight... Spent 6 months walking (A LOT) drinking only water...no sugary drinks whatsoever....my gut kept telling me something is CAUSING you NOT to lose weight. Mainsteam docs said 'eat right, exercise'...DUH...I AM!!! Went to a nautropathic doc...did a blood test and two things I learned...he said I had a severe hormone imbalance caused from being on birth control for 15 years and a parasite!!! ICK. He also said my liver was congested and can't regulate my hormones properly if it's congested...it's a cycle...this can't work, if that doesn't work...anyway...I have been on Chinese herbs from my doc for the past 5 months and have seen great progress. Drugs stay trapped in your muscles..etc...currently, I am also using Miracle II Neutralizer to try to get my body's pH in a better place....my weight will not drop off until my body is in working condition. Liver Flushes ROCK. I have only done three and am noticing remarkable progress...my last flush I passed liver flukes...you should check out the Liver Flush Forum if you are interested.
I wish you luck...you will find what you need to do...just listen to your intuition and let it guide you.
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- Same Boat - Here's what I am doing aggiepoke
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