After sending the complaining message, I looked through your previous messages and came across one where you talk about pushing down on the abdomen half way between the navel and the rt hip. This was to re-set a valve. I push at a different place, that being higher up just under the right rib cage at the about two fingers width away from the mid-line. There was a small lump there that moved when I pushed on it. I assume it was at the head of the pancreas and I either pushed a soft plug out into the common bile duct or back into the pancreas itself. Either way, the pain just went away. I am thankful that you suggested probing. I used to go to a masseur who who try to express bile by pushing in and up under the rt rib cage. It is hard to do that for one's self, he said but I think I just did move something. This is very interesting.