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107689, What do you believe? I'll listen.

Something got messed up with my post, so I'm redoing it.
Basically Spudlydoo, I was saying I very much agree with most of your post.

Certainly like you said, most sharing of beliefs is not done in love. I guess I should have included that in my other post. But some of it is. I share my faith out of love, I hope always, because there should be no other reason. There are many like you said that believe it's a requirement, even many christians, to get to heaven, and so for them, like you said, there is motivation other than love. I don't believe sharing of my beliefs is a requirement to get to heaven, as I think nothing is. My belief is that salvation is a gift by grace.

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