I have been having stone pains that I thought were a thing of th past (but I always knew they could come back). Now I've been on a low fat, no sodium, no sugar, only natural carbs diet for a week, and I think I stirred a few stones up in me liver. I'm sure many people have done it, but I'm just curious to see if anyone had attacks (I am dreading the possibility of another one)if you didn't do the Malic acid steps before the flush? I'm doing hulda's OO (Olive-Oil) ES flush. Any comments? Suggestions. I'm having bad pains, so the sooner I can do this the better. I'll be starting tomorrow.