cooking and fermenting are two very different processes... with two very different results in terms of end results.
>>" as far as pesticides go, again that is a completely different subject. Because you can say that about every single food item that is grown with pesticides. It has nothing to do specifically with soy products at all"<<
*cides* are not a different subject at all, if we are talking about a single food and that food has a history of *cides* being used on them.
So yes, if the -*soy* in question has cides used on them, and or are contaminated with them, as all food is these days... then it is relevant to the topic here and NOT a separate issue.
These *cides* are *poisons* that have a greater negative affect to health combined, than by themselves... and we all know and apple can have as many as 60+ of these *cides* ion them... gives new meaning to Snow White, eh?
Which brings me to the fact that ALL of these problems with SOY (or any *food* for that matter) are man-made... as it is with most all of our problems in this world today... including the creation of super weeds, super bugs, super microorganisms, and the grievous degradation of the planet's ecosystems, and health, which affect the health of the life on it.
Man - destroying the planet through chemistry...
Do not point a finger at the *food* per se, but at man's folly in adulterating it.