Thank you, I did move this post to the other forum. I am seeing some success with the perio after the difficult fast.
I've been reading about propolis on the UT forum, but can't find a description of the kind of extract with the best effect. I don't know anything about propolis extract, btw, but I am very interested in adding it to my protocol after reading so many good things about it.
I find using old urine and warm water in the water pic most helpful. It's amazing how refreshing and deep-cleansing the old urine feels, and the taste stops bothering, once one is used to it.