And I should further add I was not debating the merits of NB. If anything I was debating whether some of you on NB are getting better by both the NB supps and diet, just the NB supps, or just the NB diet. I was never suggesting any part of NB wasn't working or NB supps alone wasn't working for some. Obviously NB supps alone are working for some, but I would never know that if I didn't ask questions. I thought this was a forum where you could ask questions.