Ok, thanks for all the info. I think for sure I have pin worms, I don't know if there is anything else yet. I just started on Neem and Triphala plus am eating raw garlic (lots of it) and have had some moving things come out of me (very small and don't know what they are) and found a pin worm (dead) at the bottom of the bathtub after bathing in really hot water with ginger in it. I thought maybe the drug route would be more effective???? Although I don't know. I can see this is a very hard journey and certain things work for some that don't work for others. Where I live the Dr.'s aren't good on most things, so I highly doubt if they'd be any good for this. I have heard diet is key, so looks like I'll be concentrating on that too.