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Re: Swollen inner lips, looking for advice- iodine, supplementation.
 
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Re: Swollen inner lips, looking for advice- iodine, supplementation.


Thx very much for taking the time to do some supplement analysis, Vul. It's a good bit of work, so thumbsups.

The salty options here are otherwise atlantic (mediteranean-harvested) w/algae in for the Iodine (but this is questionable as far as I understand, thx be to seagulls), and as far as I've been able to find, Seltin (salt replacement mix) of sodium/potassium chloride with a pinch of ES (magnesium sulfate), or the plain tablesalt. Issues with the flow agent (iron/cyanide mix) has an alert on the table of addatives here on CV (available under ' foods that kill ').

The seltin is interesting as it is almost exactly on the 70/30 ratio.

Do have MgCl but the last dosings made me so punch-drunk that my family was a bit weirded out over newyears. I always see white fuzzytongue afterwards (as is with most Mg for me). Ruccola/rocket and other greens is my preferred source TBH. Do you find MgCl2 to have more resistance to fuzzytongue effect?

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Methylsulfurmethane (MSM) - QUESTIONABLE, DEPENDING ON OTHER DIET HABITS

Zinc methionine - OK BUT I WOULD BE CAREFUL OVERDOING THE SULFUR

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Well-noted on the sulfurs, as ES and other sulfurs again triggers the fuzzytongued effect in varying degrees. I am well aware a successful parasite cleanse is supposed to remedy this effect, but there's a catch-22, or at least a curious note here. Many of the antiparasitics are sulfur-based, but I cannot tell if it is due to depriving them of Mn via overloading the sulfur pathway, or even by overloading the system they're trying to live in with sulfides. Any thoughts?



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Selenium methionine - SE IS POTENTIALLY DAMAGING, BODY DOESN'T NEED AS MUCH AS THESE FORUM PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TAKING. THERE IS ARGUMENTON THE FORM, MY CONCLUSION IS THE YEAST FORM IS PREFERED
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What's your current stance on the 100mg+ SSKI techniques? I've thought of the SE dosage as being dependant upon the dosage of iodine. Right now overloading on Se sets my whole system to SHOUTING about uncomfortably dry skin, (200mg is apperantly a large amount), but the reactions are much different if there's been a lot of clicky-ticky joints and issues resting in bed.


Again, fuzzytongue reactions are showing up on it.


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Copper secabate - I TAKE 3 MG ABOUT 2X A WEEK
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Found notes (google mueller_ranges.tripod.com health compendium) on Co being very antiviral.

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b2 Riboflavin VERY IMPORTANT, BUT MUST BE IN PROPER CATALYTIC AMOUNT

b-complex 50 - THESE ARE SYNERGISTIC CATALYSTS, ALL B VITAMINS I'VE SEEN HAVE WAYYYY TOO MUCH OF EACH COMPNENT, EXAMPLE IS B1, A NORMAL AMOUNT IS MAYBE A MILLIGRAM A DAY BUT THE PILLS HAVE 100 MG OR MORE WHICH IS WAY TOO MUCH. BE CAREFUL WITH B'S AND ALSO FOLIC ACID ISN'T REALLY THE RIGHT FORM, INSTEAD FOLLINIC ACID OR METHYL FOLATE
THESE B VITS ARE OXIDATION CATALYSTS AND MUST BE IN CATALYTIC AMOUNTS

manganese bisglycinate - OK BUT REMEMBER ALSO THESE TRACE METALS ARE CATALYSTS AND MUST BE TAKEN IN CATALYTIC AMOUNTS. IF BODY HAS TOO MUCH, THEN DIFFERENT AND DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS CAN HAPPEN, SAME FOR COPPER BELOW
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Much agreed, dose and timing is showing itself to be very important. Dosing with these in particular can be once every 3-14 days.



Sulfur nutrients (b1 included but my supply of it is benfothiamine, not ideal) trigger soreness in cartilagenous areas (especially one heel right now).



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You might also learn that mixed tocopherols such as from wheat germ oil is superior to other forms of E, and also that E alone can alleviate peripheral neuropathy
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Yes! Found after several months that dosing mixed tocopherols 400mg/per 2-3 days stopped giving blood thinning and dizzy effects after a year or two. Right now flax seed oil and brorage is doing good at 1-2 tbsp/day.





I'd appreciate a bit of your thoughts on sulfurs. I remember loosely that it strongly effects calcium levels... and those are also important in neuropathy. Also that loosening too much Hg is of course Hell's Bells ringing mad and strong.



Pantothenic acid is a supplement I do have handy, though experiencing a boost from it seems also to be dosage and timing dependant. Pantethine is an interesting member of the b5 chain, but it has a double-sulfur bond and has, in the past, also halfway put me to sleep.


It feels like a great puzzle.
Iodine is necessary for the formation of double-sulfur bonds.
Without some level of sulfur intake Iodine worsens symptoms to a degree.



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Still praying strongly for a trustworthy alt. practicioner/private person to work with here (am not in an english-speaking country).
 

 
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