Hi! Kir, Glad you found a little relief eigther way Something is working! What is Collaidal?? That's something I have never heard of...I will have to look this up, Like you I am skepticle of products. I will most likely stick to what I'm on and see what else I CAN do afterwards. I'm totally bummed out today, I feel like there is so much more I can accomplish ,everything takes so long to do. I made myself a whole bowl of homemade humous and ate the whole thing with some rice crackers...I just can't feel satisfied...just one of those does I guess...thank goodness there will always be tommorow/