I so agree with you Dana, surgery was the option for me, and I feel wonderful. And to the girl who wants advice for her friend, I was hospitalized in Nov 2004, and they had me on Morphine right away, and told me to stay there, they sent me up to the 6th floor as soon as possible. I stayed there a week, they wanted to do the surgery then, but I couldn't I had a new job to go train for, so the surgery was post-poned til Jan 10th/05, but you cannot take any herbal stuff, or stuff you take while you do "liver flushes" while on Morphine. And goodluck to your friend, in whatever she chooses to do. And Dana, yes we don't really have all that time to be on here, because we are living our pain-free life. Best wishes to you.