Thanks for the input Blueduck and hanna. My impresson was that The Master Cleanser and ultimate cleanses both clean out the bowels. Am I wrong with this assumption? I figure it would be a good idea to start with the ultimate cleanse since it takes care of the parasites, the stomach and bowels with the PB shakes and sal water flushes, and also the kidneys since it is a liquid fast. This would take care of all the bases before I start the live flushing. I hope my approch would not be to stressfull on the organs. I will post back when finish the ultimate cleanse and start doing the liver flushes. Thanks again.