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Re: by Hveragerthi ..... The Truth in Medicine

Date:   11/29/2009 2:23:12 PM ( 12 years ago ago)
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 So if I cite it not, it doesn't exist !! LOL, that's a good one. 

Maybe I should go over reading lessons while we are on chemistry lessons since I did not say that. What I pointed out is that if you cannot provide proof I have to ASSUME that it does not exist.  This is hardly the same as does not exist.  I can assume that you will not come back with more irrelevant information, but this does not mean you won't.  I have spent many years dealing with people who like to play games claiming that there is proof of their claims and yet they never seem to come up with it because it does not exist.  Or they send you off on wild goose chases by posting references that often they do not read and they don't quote the part of the study they are referring to so you have to wade through their references only to find out that the evidence to their claim does not exist.  And they know most people will not waste their time doing this.  So far you have fit the typical "I have no real evidence" type person I normally have to deal with.  I can pull up all sorts of studies to contradict what you have posted, but I specifically wanted to see the proof of your claims, which I still don't see. You merely posted some titles to articles that you may or may not have even bothered reading yourself.  Try posting the exact quotes from these sources that back what you are claiming so I know you actually read and understood them.  Then we can go from there to see if there is any real basis for your claims.

One does not need studies for simple considerations such as the solubilities of simple organic salts !! This is the most basic chemistry, learned freshman year.


ROTFLMAO!!!!!  If they were soluble salts in the solution then they would not have precipitated out as stones.  By the way since when did calcium oxalate become considered a soluble salt?  And you learned chemistry where?

"Oxalic acid is the chemical compound with the formula C2O2(OH)2 or HOOCCOOH. This colourless solid is a relatively strong carboxylic acid, being about 3,000 times stronger than acetic acid. The dianion, known as oxalate, is a reducing agent as well as a ligand for metal cations. Many metal ions form insoluble precipitates with oxalate, a prominent example being calcium oxalate, the primary constituent of the most common kind of kidney stones."



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