Another test I took is the over night oxygen test (at my home). There is also the sleep test, but that’s overnight at the clinic. I just did the first and it was normal, but wow, lack of oxygen would explain so much! A woman at work was having Mirena/ hormonal/ thyroid type symptoms. It turned out she wasn’t getting enough oxygen at night. The answer is out there somewhere!   [End]
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I guess there’s no way to tell how it will be in 6-8 months (for any of us). Like I said, this pregnancy is VERY rough compared to my pre- Mirena pregnancy. BUT,I’ve had two ultrasounds at the high risk and they don’t see anything wrong. . . Lack of energy was always my biggest Mirena and post Mirena complaint, and there’s sure not going to be any energy for me the rest of the year! So there won’t be any way to tell if I am making progress or not. The waiting game goes on. . . Cynthia, please don’t feel bad about writing. This has always been a safe place to vent our feelings. I st ...
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Thanks everybody! Nile, that’s great news. I am so sorry (and horrified really) that us ”old timers” are taking so long. I have to laugh, though, because I’ve gone from one fatigue causing event to another: have baby,Mirena, black mold, get pregnant, have baby--next will be menopause and I’ll never be energetic again! I’m soooooo glad I had fun in my 20’s! : )   [End]
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I’ve read about the heavy bleeding many times before, so I would think that is normal. The dizzy/ bad, etc. could be from the major hormonal change. No matter what some doctors might say, Mirena puts out quite a bit of fake progesterone and it is a big change for the body when it is placed or taken out. I hope you feel better very soon.   [End]
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My Mirena was surgically removed from my bowel area in Oct. 2009. I’d had it almost 3 years. I got pregnant on the first try last June 2012, but this has been a very rough pregnancy. I’m not sure if it’s the scar tissue from the Mirena perforating, nerve damage, or what, but I have had daily stabbing pain since about 22 weeks. Also, she has been transverse this whole time, and I worry that abnormalities of the uterus are somehow making it harder for her to turn. I have also had an unheard of amount of Braxton Hicks Contractions (sometimes 50-60+ in one day) due to “irritable uterus. ...
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I am so sorry to hear this. Do you notice any trigger that might be causing the symptoms to come back? How long did you feel better? It is so frustrating to try to second guess your body all the time. Any recent tests?   [End]
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If you do have to have it surgically removed, do try to rest for a few days. I got back to my normal schedule 2 days later, and the recovery was very long. I still had stabbing pain until 5 months later. I probably ended up with adhesions/ scar tissue from not taking it easy a little longer. Good luck!!   [End]
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Just in this last week, I have counted 4-5 posts (including mine) listing brain lesions. But none of us were diagnosed with MS (so far, knock on wood!) ) Just wondering, could Mirena actually be putting HOLES in our heads? That is horrifying. It sure would explain why my brain fog/fatigue never really got better.   [End]
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I’ve read many posts where women felt better within weeks. Others take months and months and have some cycles where their symptoms return temporarily. The doctor may tell you the hormone leaves almost immediately, but that is not true. The main thing is to get it out and begin healing. You might want to consider vitamin D--a bunch of us tested low for that after Mirena. Best of luck to you!!   [End]
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My symptoms included all ones you listed, and didn’t start until I weaned my son at 16 months. I’m glad you decided to get it out--its caused harm to so many women. I wish you a fast recovery!!!   [End]
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I did have leg pain, more on the left side, and numbness. I have read hundreds and hundreds of posts about pain and numbness caused by Mirena. I hope you can get it out and get some relief!   [End]
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Nile, I keep thinking it MUST be Tuesday already so you can get some news (it is Tuesday, isn’t it? I am having major brain fog lately--not sure how I’m even finding my way around the house at this point.) Just know I am thinking of you and I hope all goes well.   [End]
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I just saw this today. Horrifying!!!! The fake progesterone will decrease their bone mass! They are still growing for crying out loud. What are these idiots thinking??   [End]
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I had a nerve conduction test for my legs, which was negative. The left foot/ankle periodically goes numb. I also had a chest X-ray for problems with lung capacity, but it didn’t show anything. The pulmonary function test said I’m only at 70%. The allergist’s breathing test guesses my lung age at 69. My leg pain has been much better since I got out of the moldy classroom, but my lungs haven’t improved yet. I can’t tell what is Mirena itself and what was caused after Mirena mutilated my immune system. Please, ladies, post your test results when you get them. Thanks!   [End]
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I am still angry with my doctor as well. I was willing to forgive him for the perforation, but not his attitude afterwards. He was rude and defensive. And he would not even acknowledge that I had so much pelvic pain after the surgery. Five months of stabbing pain. He wrote in my record that I was healing fine.   [End]
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We’ve been on condoms for 2 1/2 years. Since I couldn’t take any hormones, it seemed the only method we could use. When I turn 40, my husband is SUPPOSED to get snipped. I have to wonder why medical science can’t come up with something better for birth control.   [End]
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I’m sorry--it was risk of perforation that is increased. That’s what happened to mine. I should have finished my thought! My symtpoms after stopping bf started with teeth grinding/migraines, then ever present fatigue and brain fog, then eye and skin irritation, then pelvic and low back pain. Random (huge) bloating, low progesterone, etc. I also got osteoporosis. It’s evil.   [End]
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I know breastfeeding has something to do with it. . .I got Mirena at my 6 week check up. I bf until he was 15 months. As soon as my milk started drying up, I started getting symptoms. I didn’t know that early they were from Mirena. It seems like the bf was protecting me from the hormones in Mirena. Now I know they are not supposed to put them in that early after childbirth, and that there are added risks putting them in lactating women. (plus my tilted uterus). My OB should NEVER have suggested one.   [End]
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I had what I call ”pelvic” stabbing for about 5 months after I had Mirena removed. It seemed random and not based on my cycle. Since then it hasn’t come back, except the day I ovulate. Before Mirena I never knew when I was ovulating, but now it is painful. Hopefully your cramps will iron out soon. BTW I am also starting school again tomorrow. I’ve SO missed the mindless paperwork and meetings all summer!   [End]
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I am not a ”normal” Mirena survivor because mine was lost into my body and the lovely chemicals dumped. . .so I got an overdose. One study said you get a 10x dose if it escapes the womb. So I’m sure you won’t be as long as I was! I was close to 2 years. I was low on progesterone since my body didn’t seem to make it anymore. I did try vitex and progesterone cream, but I didn’t see much of a difference. Others love the cream or progon B and swear by it. Just keep a look out for getting TOO much progesterone again, as with the Mirena. Good luck!!!   [End]
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On the back pain, did you have have an X-rays or anything? I had both MRI and X-ray in 2009/2010 for wretched low back pain. It said I had degeneration and stenosis. But really, that ”diagnoisis” did nothing to help because the surgeon just referred me to pain management. Well, I hate pain management--so I went to PT instead. That didn’t help either (and I was sure it would, since it helped so much after my upper back surgery 10 years ago). Anyway, that’s how I ended up in belly dance class. It still took a year of strenghting (I am a slow learner, apparently) but my low back has ...
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For a long time, I felt horrible for 10 full days of my cycle--but it was during ovulation and not my period. I felt better on my period. And my cycle was only about 22-23 days, so it was pretty much half the time. I had spotting for longer than my period (although, I only bleed a tiny amount for 2 days, the spotting could start 4 days before that.) I know some doctors say our bodies are all balanced in 3-4 months, but a nice osteopathic primary I saw said some women take 12-18 months to balance after something like the Mirena. It’s horrible but true. I hope you will feel better MUCH ...
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Just as long as ”old” isn’t in the title! :)   [End]
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It stands to reason we DO have something in common--even if it’s that the Mirena caused a chain reaction in our bodies that keeps our immune systems out of whack. The curezone format does seem more streamlined to me, but I have never gotten used to fb in general. :) I’m very 20th century! If we set up an old timer site, though, we’ll have to think of a more flattering title!   [End]
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Oh, wow. Restrictions during breastfeeding would have been AWFUL. I had to do exclusive pumping because he had cleft, and was attached like a cow to that pump at every meal. If I couldn’t have had comfort food, I would have gone insane! Yes, it says I can have carrots, rice, beef, lima beans. Wheat but no gluten. . .it’s funny, I can stand large amounts of physical pain, but I still remember the nausea I had the one time I tried to fiddle with the ”fibromyalgia diet.” Old timers, that’s right! May we be blessed with the full cure!! Thank you so much for the support; it means ...
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What’s weird is I’m not allergic to anything. Nothing showed up on the prick test the allergist did. My blood showed inflammation, but was non specific. This Dr. called them ”reactions” (I guess that’s the same as sensitivity??). She is an internal medicine dr., but leans toward the alternative. She said there are shots, but I can’t take them right now. I’m supposed to rotate the foods I reacted to so I don’t eat them more than once every 4 or so days. The trouble is I showed up having antibodies to EVERYTHING I eat. All dairy. All meats except beef. Every spice. Most fruits ...
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I had a big blood panel on antibodies to foods and things in the environment. The doctor said I am having a reaction to almost everything I put in my mouth. She said this immune response started with an ”insult” to my body. The reactions include my con’d symptoms: brain fog, fatigue, and body pain. Timeline: 1. Mirena 2006-2009--lost in body, severely depresses immune system 2. My ruined immune system become prey to the black mold at work 3. My completely messed up body starts having reactions to everything! This may be the answer to why I am still not back to normal after goin ...
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Hopefully, that was your last ”crash!” I still have dry eyes, but it’s not all the time. It seems to be worse when I lie down at night. . .it also seems like I remember having the same problem when I hit age 13 or 14 and had crazy hormones!!! I will be 3 years post in Oct.   [End]
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I also have numbness and my left eye dilates more than my right. I’ve also had years of muscle pain. I’ve had 2 brain MRI’s. They show about 30-40 small lesions, but not in the regular pattern for MS. My primary wanted me to get the spinal tap, but the neurologist said those lesions might even have been caused by migraines (which I got as my first Mirena ”gift.” The upshot of it is, I don’t believe I have MS. There are a lot of previous posts here about women worried about MS. I don’t think any of them were ever really diagnosed. I am 99% sure that is is Mirena. Some women experience ...
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It just makes me doubt medical science. . .that a woman’s nails could be falling apart and they have no clue! My allergist/immunologist checks my nails every time I go, but I’m not sure for what. Except once he was checking for the pneumonia caused by inhaling toxins, because that makes ”clubbed” nails. I don’t guess throwing money at it does much good in the long run, but it sure is frustrating. I AM kind of glad we aren’t diagnosed with autoimmune diseases, just because they seem hard to ”cure.” But I wonder if Mirena causes a NEW disease no one has identified yet! Mirena Diabo ...
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Good news on the ANA! I’m glad that you’ve seen an improvement--I guess gradual is better than the alternative!!! I am curious if the doctor said anything about your nails splitting. Isn’t that supposed to be a big clue? This vitamin D issue seems to be another clue--why are so many of us low? Mine is 30, and that’s with supplements. I think that means we all have to watch out for our bone health. I had another round of tests, too, and most are normal. Still anemic, still have .6 thyroid. Lungs still at 70% capacity. I hope those remaining symptoms you have iron themsevle ...
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It was probably after a year and a half post that the palpitations stopped. And like you said, nothing was going on when they happened. I could be just sitting there doing nothing. The doctors could hear it on office visits and I had a EKG, which was normal. . .so after that I just considered it yet another annoying Mirena effect.   [End]
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I can say the palpitations eventually went away on their own. The fatigue has very very slowly gotten better over the last 2 years. For the low back pain, I have to do exercise class. I don’t love exercise, but it is better than back pain. As for the allergies, I think that is our immune system. The Mirena brochure specifically mentions autoimmune issues (that we shouldn’t get Mirena if we have them, BUT I’M SURE that means Mirena can cause/enhance them.) I’m doing my best to stay away from my newfound allergens, but it meant I had to take a demotion at work to get out of a speci ...
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Six weeks of good! That’s wonderful! Maybe those stretches will get longer and longer until your back to normal! I know there are several us with problems after 2 years, but there aren’t two many complaints about 3 years plus. Maybe this is the key year. I meant to ask you--if you still had the Mirena in, when would your five years be up? My five years would have been up 6 months ago. Recently, my hormones finally seem to be stabilizing. Just wondering if the fake progesterone that obviously went all over our body keeps working until the 5 year point, even if we’ve had Mirena o ...
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Apparently I have this genetic mutation. It can cause problems with female hormones, regulating toxins, pain, pregnancy, folic acid absorption, veins, immune system, fatigue, etc. I know we also wonder why WE are so negatively affected by the junk in Mirena. . .maybe we have something like that in common that makes us more susceptible. Just a thought. Also, the holistic dr. I saw today said the rash on my cheeks is an immune system response. We’re doing a big panel of allergy testing--blood, not the regular skin pricks. With Mirena it always seems to go back to the immune system.   [End]
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The copper IUD doesn’t have hormones and lasts for 10 years. It wouldn’t regulate the cycle, but it IS supposed to make you bleed more heavily. It’s horrible that women don’t have safe, effective choices. We have been on condoms for 3 years because I’ll never take hormones again. Good luck!!!   [End]
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Your definitely not crazy. Mirena is very toxic to a large group of women. Look at all the messages just on this board, with another 10 thousand at medications.com! Some people have suggested having it taken out at Planned Parenthood, which may be more affordable. I know all of us here would encourage you to get it out ASAP. I wish I’d had mine out as soon as I started suspecting it. . . Best of luck! Keep us posted!   [End]
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I just had blood drawn yesterday. I’m anxious to compare notes. . .It’s very hard to have to wait! I guess we should all be used to it by now. :)   [End]
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They liked one called (I think) fresh kote, but to me if put extra ”gunk” in the eye. I use Systane. It is pricey, but it doesn’t have alcohol in it like some other brands. Hopefully it will just go away and you won’t have to worry with it! :)   [End]
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Hey. . .my eyes started bothering me several months after Mirena was removed. They are dry and painful. Other times they water. The left eye becoming more dilated more than the right was a whole year after. For me I think the key is inflammation. I’m convinced Mirena did a number on my immune system. The neuro-opthamologist gave me different kinds of eye drops to try. Some of them were over the counter. Have you had any luck with drops? Also, my vision checked out fine, so I don’t even need glasses. Weird.   [End]
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Diana--thanks for the link to the nail site.It was right on for me--I have vertical nail ridges, and it said lack of folic acid and iron. I wish more drs. would look at things like nails! Cynthia, I nursed for 16 months. Actually, it was almost exclusive pumping because my son has cleft lip and palate and couldn’t suck. My family thought I was nuts for going on so long, but I wanted his immune system to be healthy for all his surgeries (7th one coming up.) But I know it took a BIG toll on my health to do it. That with the Mirena just wiped me out. Anyway, I had a ton of body changes ...
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I’m anxious to hear your results, too. Maybe us ”old timers” can get some answers! The OB I saw said that since Mirena hormones only last 5 years, they should be completely gone now since my insertion was 5 1/2 years ago. I wish that is true. I have actually had TWO NORMAL CYCLES in a row! They were 28 days, with PMS (which I had at ovulation instead all these years) cramps, (again, which I’ve had at ovulation), and even my skin has gone back to being oily in the T-zone. Also, my principal moved us out of my classroom for the whole last month of school, even though she said they fo ...
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Someone called the health department on us. The health guy said as long as we SEALED any mold or asbestos in the wall, it would be safe!! Can you believe that??? When I told my doctor that, he turned red in the face, started cursing, and said that was the stupidest thing he ever heard. So some guys came and sealed some of the cracks in the wall and windows. Then they immediately did an air quality test, even though they knew I’d been running my HEPA air purifiers 24 hours a day! How can that test be valid? But I’m sure they’ll claim it’s all safe now. Also, the EPA doesn’t get in ...
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It’s a 90 year old, poorly maintained building. There was black mold in the AC before they finally changed it a few months ago. Large amount of rot under the window sills. 18 month HEPA filters only lasted 2 months. Huge amount of dust in AC filter. Management says no safety concerns can be proven. A couple of q-tips full of ”stuff” to pro lab showed penicillium, acremonium, nigraspora, cladiosporum, bipolaris, yeast, and trichoderma. I took another sample a couple of weeks ago and am waiting for results. I’ve been there 8 years, and for the past 5 years I’ve had more and more he ...
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My hormones were clearly messed up at a year and 2 years post Mirena. But the last test looks like they are finally balancing!! This OB said if I’m getting regular periods, my hormones are fine. Not sure if I believe that exactly, but it really doesn’t look like it could be my hormones or thyroid at this point. . . She wants me to repeat all the autoimmune tests that were negative a year ago. She said sometimes they are falsely negative, but show up later. Since I have inflammation in eye, blood, Bartholin gland, skin, and colon, and constant muscle pain, I guess it’s possible. ...
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http://www.cbgnetwork.org/3538.html This ones said much more of the hormone is released than they are claiming. ”Therefore, it is plausible to substantiate that using Mirena has the same effect as taking 1-2 Noregeston® tablets daily on a continuous basis (27).” The other is on osteporosis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3030178/?tool=pubmed   [End]
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Mine was lost somewhere between 6 months and 3 years, and I didn’t know it. The Dr. did an ultrasound, but he thought it showed the Mirena was still in there. But the X-ray clearly showed that it WAY off to the side--no where near my uterus! Please let us know what happens. Think about getting a second opinion if you are faced with any decisions. Good luck!!   [End]
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It was my C3 (complement 3?) and gamma globulins that showed ”chronic inflammation.” But that was a year ago. . .my sed rate from the fall was normal. Not sure what the difference is. My bartholin gland is inflammed, too. 5 areas of inflammation. Inflammation and immune system. . .I think that is the key for me. Just don’t know what the solution is!!   [End]
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I had abdominal stabbing for about 6-8 months after Mirena. Then it went away, except for ovulation. I have horrible stabbing then, which I never had before Mirena. Now, 2 years later, I have more abdominal pain. There was some nausea with it. I thought it was a cyst, but the ob/byn told me today my colon is inflammed! So that’s inflammation in my colon, eyes, skin, and blood. Geez. But it’s weird I’m not having ANY other digestive trouble. I hope yours goes away soon!   [End]
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My lower back pain started 2 1/2 years after insertion, and it was led me to have the back X-ray that showed the IUD had perforated. . .(although no doctor actually noticed the X-ray--I had to look at it myself months later to find out.) The low back pain continued pretty much all the time for a year and a half after that. I still have it, but it is much beter now that I do dance class every week. Don’t laugh--it’s belly dancing class. It was the only thing that helped the back pain--and I tried a bunch of things! I have to drag myself there but it’s worth it. My back MRI did show degener ...
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I’ve been wondering the same thing! It sounds crazy, but my MOOD is great. It’s improved steadily over the last few years. But my body is a wreck. May is the 3rd anniversary of this daily pain. The heavy feeling on my head has never improved. I’ve always felt like a werido because I never had a crash, because I never really felt better! A good day is where the pain is regular and not horrible, and I have 30 minutes of real energy. But honestly, I am enjoying life and still trying to find what works. In my case I think Mirena ruined my immune system and now environmental factors ...
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Feel free to rant anytime! This is the place. I know it is very hard to trust any doctor after this mess. . .now everything they say I question. I hope you get through this tough time quickly!   [End]
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I know they did a visual field test, a retinal scan, and took pictures of the eyeball. He said there is no ”cure,” but he gave me some eyedrops to constrict the pupil on that side. Mirena--the gift that keeps on giving! How are you?   [End]
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The neuro-opthamologist said I have inflammation of the optic nerve on my left eye. That is why it’s been dilating larger than the other eye for the last year and a half. It affects my vision on that side, because the eye is weaker and I have extra blurriness on that side. Also, night driving is really bad because of the extra light sensitivity. Cause is “idiopathic.” (unknown.) Only, the cause is really not unknown to us, is it?   [End]
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Do y’all ever feel that an outside stimulus is causing crashes? Maybe an environmental factor, medicine, regular illness? Just curious if you think the source is definitely internal or could be external. . . On the air hunger: I don’t know if this is related, but my allergist always does a blowing test at every appointment. He says my lungs are in terrible shape. I finally asked for a print out and it said my estimated lung at is 69 years old! (I am 38, never smoked.) Not sure if that is Mirena related or mold infested classroom related. I don’t need to gasp air, it’s just that my ...
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Thank you very much for attaching the whole sheet. Your lab shows extra ranges that mine didn’t. Your progesterone was what mine was a year and a half ago, but mine’s been edging up. If it’s any consolation, my FSH was in the menopausal range last year, but that Dr. and the next one said I was definitely NOT in menopause. Did the Dr. say these low levels could be responsible for your symptoms? I didn’t get the Mirena side effects until after I stopped nursing, so I always felt BF protected me from the leveongesterel somehow. Is there a different hormone range for nursing women? ...
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Thanks, guys. I wish I’d done what a lady at work is planning--blood and saliva at the same time. I don’t know that the cream did me any harm, but I do know that the pressure on my head/fatigue/can’t find the word problem didn’t go away like I’d hoped. At least it doesn’t look like I’m in menopause yet--just feels like it! Hang in there everybody.   [End]
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Since Mirena was out 2 1/2 years ago, I’ve had 4 hormone tests. The 1st three showed very low progesterone. But this last one looked normal! But maybe I messed up, because I’ve been on prog. cream for 9 months. I went off 4 days before the blood test. Maybe the reading isn’t accurate? And if it is correct, I wonder why I haven’t improved? Also, 3 different drs. had different methods of testing. One was 3rd day, one was after day 16, one only believes in saliva, one only in blood. If they can’t agree, how can we rely on the results??? The good news is that this last ob/gyn has STO ...
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That was such a nice post. . .here’s hoping our ”victory posts” come this year!!!! Did either of you contact that new lawyer not doing just perforations? I don’t know if it’s worth it, but I’m glad they’re doing it. Bad publicity for Bayer.   [End]
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Ob/gyn #1 (who lost the Mirena in me) said, ”5% of women can’t handle it.” But his solution was to try birth control pills ON TOP of Mirena before taking it out. Mistake. Then he was a jerk after the laproscopy so I changed. . . Ob/gyn #2 had a Mirena herself, so she didn’t listen. She had no ideas at all for making me feel better. Ob/gyn #3 said my hormones were way out of wack. Didn’t really comment on Mirena. His only solution was prog. cream. Just tried it for 9 months. Not effective. Ob/gyn #4 said he’s stopped placing them from all the problems they cause. Rhem. sai ...
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I have read many posts about passing clots after removal. (not me--I’ve barely bled at all for years!)If you search ”clots” on this forum, there are a bunch of messages. I know that doesn’t help much, but at least it might ease your mind to know how many other ladies had the same issue! Glad you had it out! Take care.   [End]
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Hey! I’m sorry to hear that you are still going through this mess. It’s been way too long!!! Hormones confuse the heck out of me, but I know I have a short cycle (23-26 days usually) and I am supposedly low in progesterone, high in estrogen, and high in testosterone. I just had them retested since it’s been 6 months and am waiting for the results. . . As for the dreams, you reminded me that I hadn’t been having my usual vivid dreams lately UNTIL I took that melatonin to help me sleep. . .I always thought vivid dreams were a good thing because we are deeply asleep/in a REM cycle. Bu ...
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I had the tail bone pain, but it did go away after a few months. My left foot/ some of my leg is still slightly numb, even after over 2 years. It used to be much worse, though, so I count it as a minor irritation compared to some of my other Mirena trouble. For the insomnia I’ve tried some melatonin. It supposed to be a sleep hormone, and they even give it to children. (?) It seems to help with the loud music, static, and endless thoughts in my head so I can finally go to sleep. No effects in the morning so far. I’ve read a lot of posts about how awful month 4-5 is, so hang in there!
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Mirena was removed by laproscopy 2 1/2 years ago. It’s ridiculous not to be back to normal yet. I also got osteoporosis at age 35, and I blame Mirena for that because you have to have the correct female hormone balance to grow bone. New symptoms include left eye dilating more than the right (1 1/2 year) and anemia (6 months). So body still going downhill. . .still looking for the brakes!! Do you plan to get tested?   [End]
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The longest lasting symptom is the brain fog/fatigue. The feeling of being so run down 24/7 for 5 years--like gravity is pulling me into the ground. No depressed mood since Mirena was cut out, just depressed body! Also: Constant muscle pain all over body. Never lets up!!! pressure on top of head (constant) teeth grinding/jaw pain (mostly resolved by NTI guard) periods still too light (2 1/2 years out) progesterone too low, estrogen ratio too high testosterone too high = facial hair! foot still slightly numb--not as bad as before Savella dry, red, aged skin (rosac ...
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My thyroid has been .6 all three times I’ve tested. I wonder if that’s why I’m not better??? They said it was normal, but it sure is close to the .4 cut off. Which is HYPER, right? It’s confusing. I’m seeing a new ob/gyn in 2 weeks and will ask about thyroid meds.   [End]
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I have no help as to a fix, but the veins in my hands stand out, too. I think it makes my hands look 20 years older. Just another gift from Mirena, like the rough reddened skin on my formerly clear face. I really feel it aged me at least 10 years.   [End]
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Jackie, please consider getting copies of your lab reports. One doctor told me my resluts were normal, but when I got them I saw SEVEN of them were out of range! And if your thyroid is borderline, they won’t tell you. Please let us know if you go to the Cleveland Clinic, and who you see. ProudMama, I found out in Dec. I have anemia, but I don’t know what kind. The allergist is super nice, but never tells me WHAT to do with symptoms and results (beyond getting the HEPA purifiers, which have been a Godsend.) I don’t even know who you see for anemia. I bought some fancy health food st ...
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Jackie, I know doctors are a pain, but you might get lucky and find a good one. Sometimes I bring up this site and say, there are 22,000 negative posts about Mirena, with 7 million page views. How can they ignore that? (WEll, some of them have their heads in the sand). My next test is to check my oxygen overnight. I’m thinking it’s worth the risk of side effects to try thyroid meds for a few months. Waiting this out is not working for me. I am borderline hyper (.6) but have all the symptoms. It would be such a joy to get rid of this 5 years of wet carpet on the head feeling!! ...
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ProudMama, That’s a great description of ovulation ”hell.” That overwhelmed by the smallest task feeling was constant when Mirena was in. It makes you feel so powerless. AJ, I have the dry eyes, numb foot, and jaw pain. The jaw pain came from grinding my teeth. I have to wear a NTI nightguard every night. I take fish oil but also have to use eye drops all the time. I haven’t been able to do anything about the numb foot, but it hasn’t worsened. I was tested by a rhem. but she didn’t find anything. Good luck!!   [End]
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I am really bad at this so forgive me if I say something stupid, but is there ANYTHING to think about trying-even a probably idiotic doctor? I kept saying they were useless and I wouldn’t go for months, but then I’d make another appointment. It gave me some hope every time that they would say something helpful. At least they ruled some things out. What about progesterone cream or calming herbs or vitamin b shots? Acupuncture? I sure haven’t found the cure but I hate to stop looking because it could be around the corner. During my second back surgery they cut me neck to waist (again)a ...
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Shira, I’m sorry there isn’t a good birth control for us to choose from. My friend’s husband won’t get a vasectomy because he says he’s the ”bull.” (or stud, or something sexist like that.) She is really hurting her health on the Pill, but he doesn’t like condoms. It really makes me upset. I hope your husband will come to understand you! Good luck!!   [End]
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Jackie, I so wish you were having a better time. I know how frustrating it is. Over the last 3 years I’ve tried so many things from the naturalist. . .most of them have been a waste of time, but it does make me feel like I’m trying SOMETHING. One (tumeric) really did help with my stomach. (IF anyone finds a cure for fatigue, PLEASE let me know). How are you sleeping? The neuro pointed out that everything in the body is worse if you aren’t getting rest and it can even cause pain, etc. I wish I could offer something! Keep posting.   [End]
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I used the copper IUD at age 22. It pinched me because I’d never had children, but I don’t remember other side effects. I can’t use it now because my body has been very clear it will not tolerate any assaults on my immune system. But I’ve talked to women who love it. And if you get it, you can always watch closely for side effects/ immune system problems and get it out right away. We have been on condoms for 2 1/2 years, but I wouldn’t want to do that for 15-20 years! Also, I understand not using natural planning at a young age, but I have read that they do it with body temperature now ...
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THANK YOU for being there for me. If I didn’t have Mirena issues I think I would like to try. I think in 5-10 years I would regret not trying. But on the other hand, if I have a child with health problems I would always blame myself for passing on the poison. . . Also, my husband is a wonderful man and he will leave it up to me, but I feel that the coldness I felt toward him when I had Mirena damaged our relationship a little. I know another child, especially if there were more health problems for either of us, would be such a strain. I do believe in teaching hospitals. . .we d ...
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I know no one can make this choice for me, but I don’t really have anyone to talk to. My husband came out and said he doesn’t want our 5 year old to be an only child. I’ll be turning 39 in Dec. I literally have only months to decide whether to risk it after the mess Mirena has made of my body. I’m so ANGRY that Mirena is involved in this decision even though it was cut out 2 1/2 years ago!!! Here’s what I keep thinking about. . . 1. Can I even carry a child when Mirena went through the wall of my womb and my progesterone is so low? I take the cream but I haven’t noticed in posit ...
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I am at 28 months post, too. While my attitude is better, I hate to say my body just isn’t. You are not alone. The only thing I can think to do is tackle 1 symptom at a time and try to get some relief that way. And keep posting, because it helps to know there are others out there. :)   [End]
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I also had mine surgically removed, but it was lying against my bowel and hadn’t punctured (yet.) They say it could have gone through my womb wall or up my tube to get out. My Dr., who I’d trusted for 11 years, told me not to come back for a post op, but I did because I was still having pain in that area. Then he was extremely rude and said there was no reason to have pain and I was totally healed. But I had pains on that side for months and have always wondered if my reproductive system even works any more after that. Are you having pain? Are you keeping a copy of all your medical ...
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AMA--american medical association? I have tried many herbals, and seen 3 alternate medicine doctors. It just seems like guesses with drs. no matter who they are. Even the nice ones. My aunt says that’s why they call it the ”practice” of medicine. . .   [End]
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Has anyone found or tried an immunologist? We don’t have on here, but I was wondering if it was worth traveling for. Since the Mirena pamphlet says don’t get one if you have immune system problems, I think the opposite it true--Mirena CAUSES immune system problems. Would an expert on the immune system be able to help??   [End]
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Another defensive dr. . .when they can’t figure it out, they blame us! Strangely, only 1 dr. out of the 12 I’ve seen mentioned crazy, and he’s the only one I didn’t want to see! My primary was so alarmed by my heart she got me in with the cardio in 2 days. They lost the report and he did another which showed nothing, so he asked was I sure it wasn’t depression. Depression made me fail an ekg? I said no, I’m not depressed, I’m angry! Jerks. The rhem. may be very nice--the one I saw really believed me but didn’t have any good ideas. Please let me know what your daughter’s says. ...
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The fibro medicine was Savella. I hated to take it but my foot literally felt broken all day every day. Pricey but the Dr. gave me some samples. I only took the full dose for about 3 months, then 1/2 a dose, then 1/4 a dose. If I remember it was about a month into it that my foot was starting to get better. I wish it had worked on the other muscles/nerves in my body!! A fairly new kind of pain (several months, every day) is the BURNING in my calves. It helps if I sit down and massage them with lotion. As for jaw, after I got Mirena teeth grinding was my first symptom. Terrible he ...
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It’s such a comfort to me to read your posts--to have someone to relate to! Yes, I feel a slave to my cycle. The body wide muscle pain and been with me daily for years now, but it gets worse with my cycle and seems to be getting worse to bear. Really my mood is the only thing that ever improved after Mirena, with other things getting worse! I wonder every day whether I should GIVE UP trying new things and just ACCEPT that I’ll always feel 75 years old. My medical statement said I spent over $3000 last year, not counting herbal stuff or insurance!! For nothing!!! But then think that k ...
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I got the leg pain right before removal, but I thought the Mirena had nicked a nerve or the Dr. injured me when they removed Mirena from my bowel area. But the leg pain DID get worse on one side over the next months and my left foot and lower leg went partially numb. After months and months of limping and my foot feeling broken, I finally gave in and took 5 months of fibromyalgia meds. The foot stopped hurting, but that foot has been numb a full 2 years now. It doesn’t really bother me now except I have about 20 pair of pretty shoes I can’t really wear anymore. ): I wish I had ...
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When I started having Mirena symptoms, my idiot gyn. put me on birth control pills. Combined with the huge load of Mirena hormones, it made me very sick with colitis. As soon as I stopped the pill the colitis went away. Don’t believe when they say the hormones stay in the womb. They don’t. Also, I have abnormally high testosterone as well (along with too high estrogen and too low progesterone.) I hope you can get it out soon!! Good luck.:)   [End]
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Thank you! It’s so nice to be able to come here and get answers!!!   [End]
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It takes hours to fall asleep and then hot flashes or my son wake me up and then it takes another hour to go back to sleep. I’m just so exhausted and that makes the body pain worse. Does anyone take something gentle that won’t make you groggy the next day?   [End]
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I always feel even worse around ovulation, too. This month I had a little relief from an anti inflammatory med. my neuro gave me. He said ovulation pain can be from too many prostoglandins. It’s indomethacin and it’s generic. It helped somewhat with my all over muscle pain (horrible burning pain) and quite a bit with that hard knot of anger I get at that time of month. I think it equates to what some describe as anxiety (?) With me it feels more like road rage. My husband even made a comment about my mood being so much better by the next day. Instructions say take for 14 days but I onl ...
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Progesterone cream CAN have side effects, too--even though it’s bioidentical. Search side effects and click on a site that isn’t selling the cream. I started it in July and will try to hang on until spring, but I feel I have to because of early onset osteoporosis and because my last 3 hormone tests all showed very low progesterone. But I know that some of my issues are most likely from the cream. I hope your Dr. will give you some good advise! Good luck!   [End]
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I am .6, too! Have been the last 3 tests. The nurse practitioner basically said being close to hyper doesn’t mean anything, but that doesn’t sound right. Wouldn’t some people still get symptoms NEAR the cut off???   [End]
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I figure I took care of things for 17 years--now it’s his turn!!! I’m 90% sure my husband wants a 2nd one, but 3 specialists have told me I am not healthy enough anymore. :( What about the copper IUD? I had that once, but it was before I had my son and it pinched me. Of course Mirena went through my wall so I won’t do IUD anymore, but I was talking to my son’s ped. today and she really likes hers--even though the first one went through her wall, too!   [End]
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Condoms since I had Mirena cut out 26 months ago. I’m never going to use fake hormones again. The older I get the angrier I get that women have to poison themselves. When I turn 40 my husband is going to get snipped.   [End]
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I’m 100% sure my medical problems started with Mirena, especially since it was lost for up to 3 years in my abdomen after it punched through the uterus. And I know that a very very few women aren’t better after 2 years. But is seems like a downward spiral. Why get anemia 20 months post despite supplements? I wonder if it’s related to the osteoporosis I got at age 35. (Does anyone know where I can trade in this body??) None of the Drs. have said what to do about the inflammation. I’ve tried herbal anti inflammatories and nerve pain pills like neurontin and the fibromyalgia med. sav ...
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I am 26 months post. I used to hope my numerous medical tests would show something so I could find the cause and treat it. Now over the last year I’ve started having abnormal tests but it still doesn’t help!!!! They are all at a loss. Since the May blood test, I’ve become anemic--even though I take 150% of recommended daily iron and B vitamins every day. ??? Blood shows gamma globulins and C3 (immune system stuff) are off. Gamma globulins suggest ”chronic immflamatory response.” Estrogen and testosterone too high, ratio between estrogen and progesterone way off. Progest ...
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First of all, what a jerk. Even if they don’t believe us they don’t have to be rude. Besides the naturalist, the rhem. I saw believed me. She had Mirena and had horrible side effects. I hope you continue to feel better and never have to see rude doctors again! Also, I would love to see the anti Mirena brochure. I think that’s a great idea! Nile, did you get all your tests back? What did they say?   [End]
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That’s wonderful to have such a clear answer! Now you can mark that off your list of things to worry about.   [End]
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If both of you please would let me know what you find out I would really appreciate it. . .my MRI last Dec. said 30-40 tiny lesions not in a pattern typical of MS but it can’t be ruled out. . .could be vasculitis, inflammation, or chronic ischemic something or other (to do with blood vessels.) In Jan. I had another, but the lesions didn’t enhance, meaning they weren’t active at that time. The neuro. said he didn’t think I have MS, and that even migraines could make lesions like that. Eventually I’ll probably get a second opinion, but like many ladies here have spent 1000’s and 1000’s of ...
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I probably shouldn’t answer since I’ve managed to waste a great deal of both time AND money on possible solutions! :) Anyway, I know I had a blood test for lyme and it came back negative. But if I remember lyme was very difficult to diagnose, so I agree with getting a 2nd opinion. I am on a mold kick right now, and just read this article. I have every symptom on there, but I also have all the symptoms for other things like MS etc., etc. A kind doctor told me, ”You don’t have 40 things wrong with you--it’s just one. We just have to find it.” Happy hunting!! I hope we find it soo ...
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That’s wonderful news! It’s great to hear a success story.   [End]
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I agree! Slowly but surely. Everytime I go to ANY kind of appointment I always tell the check in nurse, ”Yeah, I had that Mirena IUD and it got lost into my body and there are 40,000 negative posts on 2 sites.” Some of them are definitely listening. Eventually it will sink in!!   [End]
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That’s horrible. Has your Dr. made a guess as to how the Mirena attacks the immune system? There has to be some sort of mechanism that turns our bodies against ourselves. I know the current brochure says not to get Mirena if you have a problem with your immune system. That means they KNOW it messes up your immunity and still sell it. I hope you get things turned around. Pleae keep letting us know how you are doing.   [End]
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Jen, I am very sorry this is happening to you. And I know that steroids can make you feel bad, too, not to mention so many medical visits. I’m glad you have found doctors who believe in you, and I hope you will feel better very soon--without chemo drugs!! What kind of tests have you been through?   [End]
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For the third time, my TSH is right at .65. The range is .4-4.50, so it’s at the bottom of normal. T4 and T3 were also ”normal,” but at the lowest end again. I am thinking about trying some thyroid meds. I hate meds but I haven’t had ONE day of energy in FIVE years!!! I swear I’m about to ask for aderall or ritalin or some kind of legal speed. Anyone had any luck with this? Along with my abnormal estrogen, abnormal estrogen/progesterone ratio, and abnormal testosterone, and along with the black mold at work, I feel like I’m starting to get some answers of why I haven’t recovered ...
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That’s the problem--ANYTHING could be the trigger and we wouldn’t know it! Food, makeup, chemicals, pollen. I sure am going to be ticked off if mold at work has caused this illness to linger these extra years. What kind of breathing test did you have? I just blew into a machine at the allergist’s office. He said I had reduced lung capacity but as with the other weird tests there’s no reason given or ”fix” for it. Hope you enjoyed your therapy! Doesn’t hurt!   [End]
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I think most of us believe Mirena has compromised our immune systems. I’ve been wondering if some women stay sick for so long because we keep getting exposed to triggers. Things that a healthy body can fight off, but we can’t. We have black mold in our 90 year old, hurricane damaged building at work. I’ve been in there the longest of the women, and I am the sickest. But ALL of them have chronic sinus problems, fatigue, etc. Five women who used to work in that buidling said they were always sick in it but got well after moving to new rooms. Apparently there is actually something c ...
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I think the fact you’ve had normal WEEKS is a very good sign!! And yes, I think it means the bad stuff is not permanent! I’m very happy you are making progress.   [End]
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Do you know if you’re going to take thyroid medicine? I am waiting on my thyroid results, but I’ve been reading about how complicated the medication is. What is IGE?   [End]
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That’s great about the brain fog. I’m sure it never helped to have a bone infection! I’ve been thinking more about what triggers Mirena’s effect--about it being linked to a lowered immunity. . . We do have organic milk, eggs, and butter, but not meat. I know I eat way too many carbs. I hate to even think about what is in our food! Here’s to ”the end of the (bad) journey.” :)   [End]
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I second what GodismyRefuge said. Are you sure it is the adrenals? Just asking because my Dr. was SURE it was adrenal and made me take all that adrenal stuff, but the saliva test showed my adrenals are fine. I’m so sorry I don’t have good suggestions. My mother in law has ”panic attacks” as she calls them, and she feels like it’s her heart and she can’t sleep or rest. But she’s into prescription meds and I’m not sure they really work for her.. . .I hope you find some relief, and soon. We are here for you.   [End]
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Just FYI the lab is ZRT Laboratory. Website info@zrtlab.com http://www.salivatest.com. It was $150 and I don’t think you have to go through a doctor. It was one collection tube first thing in the morning and UPS picked it up for $8.   [End]
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I emailed my story. Does anyone know what exactly she died of?   [End]
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Oh, man. Somehow all the sentences got stuck together when I posted. I can’t even read my own post! OK, so estrogen slightly too high Progesterone in range but far below optimal, even with a low dose of prog. cream for the last 4 months. Ratio between estrogen and progesterone WAY out of whack. Testosterone too high. A ha! Now I know why I have facial hair. Cortisol and DHEA in range. What I don’t get is why I don’t feel even a tiny bit better with the cream.   [End]
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That is infuriating. Will someone please tell me how men managed to take over the world? I guess women are so much more complex, we don’t fit into a tidy sound byte.   [End]
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Estradiol 3.4 range: 1.3-3.3 Progesterone 267 optimal: 1000 range: 200-3000 Ratio 79 optimal: 300 range: 100-500 Testosterone 59 range: 16-55 Estradiol, ratio, and testosterone: out of range DHEAS and cortisol: in range So, two years after Mirena and hormones still totally messed up. Dr. wants me to increase progesterone cream. I told him that would give me XYZ side effects and he said patronizingly, ”Well. That just doesn’t make sense.” And he also said, ”And you, all by yourself, decided to cha ...
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I was just thinking about you this week. I’m so glad you’re doing well!!!! That’s wonderfufl! Keep us posted. :)   [End]
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Sure, and thank you. My husband came up with the part about them finding a cure in 2 days after the erectile dysfunction. . .   [End]
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I wrote this instead of an update. I hope no one is offended. Just blowing off some steam. :) In a stunning reversal of 10,000 years of tradition, men are now completely responsible for birth control. Eager men line up to get the Amazing Mirena, the Absolutely Perfect Birth Control. In the examination room, a man receives his ITD--inter testicular device. Without anesthesia. ”Oops,” says Dr. Head N. Sand. ”I messed that one up. Let me try again.” The man is insensible with pain and can’t reply. After 2 months, the man starts to notice he is going bald and also develop ...
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I know, it would be so nice to have a diagnosis. Then we would have a recognized issue and be taken seriously!! Diana had just posted below about thyroid tests and I was just hoping that’s what I do have so I can TREAT it. I don’t know about the MS thing. My primary wants me to do lumbar puncture (ugh) but the neuro. says I don’t fit the profile. Do you have easy insurance so you can check just to know or would it be a big pain (so to speak) to do it?   [End]
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Weird. If no one else has this kind of pain I guess I’d better keep investigating what’s going on with my idiot body. I wish I could trade it in on a new model!! Nomirena--I’m so glad they didn’t bother your teeth! My aunt had several removed with her necrosis of the jaw (caused by fosamax). I read the link. . .I sort of understand what she means, but it seems so complicated. I’m seeing an ob/gyn tomorrow to get my saliva test results. I’m going to ask about thyroid, too. Mine was .8 and .6 last year. I know that is ”normal”, but it is on the low side and maybe that’s part o ...
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My primary gussed fibro last year, but the meds she gave me only helped my foot. I’ve always felt fibro was more like a sympotm than a diagnosis, but who knows. I am taking 3 kinds of herbal anti-inflammatories and I wish they would work! Nomirena, I hope you will get good results from that surgery. Did they have to take out any teeth? I will try calling the ”big” hospital again. . .I wish they could be more specific with insurance coverage and prices!!   [End]
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OK, depressing question: how many ladies feel like they’ve been in pain all day every day long term? Some days it’s lighter than others but it never goes away. It’s been YEARS. I have flare ups that last for days or weeks or months where it isn’t light but really awful, like I’ve been put on the rack. Arms, legs,neck,shoulders, foot, hands, sometimes back, eyes or jaw, 3 month headache. I want to go to an out of town Dr., but who? Rhem, neuro, ob/gyn? It will be 6 hours one way so I have to choose carefully.   [End]
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I think it’s verging on malpractice to place a Mirena in someone so young. Progesterone birth control is bad for teenagers because your bones are still strenghthening. I know the DR. will say it stays in the uterus, but that is NOT TRUE! All of us on here would agree that the Mirena hormones went into our bodies. Please get it out. I did try the paraguard before having children (which is not exactly recommended, either) and the main side effect I had was bad cramps during my period and random pinching. I think there wasn’t much room in there since I’d never had a baby. Good luck ...
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I’d be glad to take some of the ridiculously big chest if I could! They sure were sore and felt huge, but never went above ”almost A.” Seriously, I’m glad you are doing better!   [End]
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My dentist just told me last week I have a bad case of TMJ. I thought it was just teeth grinding (which I never did before Mirena). Anyway, he said that could cause the burning/buzzing feelings under my scalp and face and the headaches in the temple and over my head. I also read it can then cause neck and shoulder tension, and of course the jaws. I never had the popping sound, but the area right in front of my ears would hurt and I am always rubbing it. So then the headache got so bad I had nausea, etc. Apparently I chewed up my old mouthguard. The new one has helped reduce the ...
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About doctors not believing the effects. . .I have met two who had Mirena and had bad experiences. One is a pediatric who also had Mirena lost in their body. The other was a rhem. who had severe migraines and other issues and had it removed. So, even lady doctors can have severe problems. I hope they are VERY vocal and help get the word out. Also, I’m SURE the serious side effect percentage is higher than 5%. Five is probably what the drug reps say.   [End]
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I second what Diana said!!! If 3 years is the magic number, that’s actually good news! I’m just sorry 2 years wasn’t the magic number. . .But if I knew I’d be back to normal in one more year I would celebrate!! Mirena placed Dec. 2006 removed form abdomen Oct. 2009 Symptoms: 1. severe anger at husband (went away 2 months post) 2. stabbing in pelvic area (went away 6 months post except at ovulation) 3. pain down leg: 2 years--but a better for last 4 months after starting magnesium 4. numb foot/leg: 1 1/2 years 5. brain fog/can’t think of word/pressure on my head: goin ...
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Thanks guys. Since I’m doing the saliva test myself next week I can just take it with me to a new OB/GYN. I guess I should feel sorry for her. She looked totally exhausted and I bet it’s the Mirena and she doesn’t even know it. Shoot, I stupidly recommended it to people the first year I had it. . .but still, doctors need to keep an open mind. I bought some evening primrose oil to add to the arsenal of herbs in my cabinet.   [End]
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I had my former Dr. for 12 years, but after the laproscopy to remove Mirena his attitude towards me changed dramatically. He told my husband I didn’t need a post op, and when I came anyway because I was having stabbing pain at the site he was very rude and defensive. My current Dr. I’ve seen for 1 1/2 year. I was telling her I was 2 years post and not better, and asked her about my lab results. They show very high ”post Menopausal” FSH and low progesterone (again). She just said if the prog. cream wasn’t working I should stop, but gave me no alternatives. She said I took the blood tes ...
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I’m so sorry you are going through this. I also had Mirena placed in 2006 after my son was born (while nursing and with a tilted womb--apparently contraindications to having Mirena if only I’d know it.) I had sciatica as well, and heard the same old story they tell pretty much all of us--”it couldn’t be Mirena.” I’m glad you’ve decided to get it out. Please let us know what the scan says. I understand what you mean about a second child. Not only do I feel too sick to try it, but I’m not sure my ”parts” are working anymore due to 2 surgeries and hormone problems. There are 2 firms a ...
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I’m glad you met Dr. J, because it’s nice for all of us to have validation from the medical community. I wish they were all so open minded. I did the prog. cream 4 months last year, but quit when I saw no improvement and when my stomach started doing its thing it always done when I take the Pill or do anything with hormones. This year, when I saw my bone numbers drop for the third dexa scan and my progesterone still so low, I started the cream again at a lower dose. I’m just having to deal with the nasty side effect. Next month I’m going to ask about the oral plant based prog. I’v ...
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Hang in there. I have read 1000’s of post and most women straighten out after a few weeks or a couple of months. Your body has had a shock. No matter what, having the Mirena out is better than having it in.   [End]
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Thank you all for being such good friends. I’ve been thinking for so long that when I finally got over Mirena I could decide whether to have another baby. But looking at the menopause issue, it just hit me that Mirena may have ”done me in” for good. It was just kind of a shock. It’s true, I do need to go to a big hospital (six hours away). I was going to ”invest”” in the $250 saliva test this month but I started my one day long period at day 20, so I’ll try again next month and start the process of finding an out of town Dr. who hopefully takes my insurance! My 2 year anniversary ...
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I know there’s nothing anyone can DO about it, but I knew you ladies would understand how I feel. If Mirena has pushed me into early menopause, that means I have no chance of EVER feeling better again! I know menopause is a natural process, but not so early! I feel like my aging process has been accelerated by 20 years and there’s nothing I can do about it. Joint pain, massive bone loss, skin changes, facial hair, never even one day of energy, chills and hot flashes, periods becoming erratic. Four 1/2 years of pressure on my head that’s turned into a FIFTY days of headache nothing takes ...
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Thank you for writing. How cane we tell if it’s peri-menopause? I’ve been very concerned about this, but they since my estrogen is normal that’s not it. I was 33 when I got Mirena and its been out almost 2 years, but my cycles just get lighter and lighter. This time it only lasted 1 day!!! And a few months ago the time in between started becoming erratic. I thought taking prog. cream would help with this, but it hasn’t. I keep wondering the it’s still the Mirena, or if Mirena pushed me into premature menopause--a more permanent problem. I’m 37.   [End]
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