Hi. I have done about 50 gallbladder/liver purges, in the last 12 years. Yesterday I tried my regular Clark protocol. MgSO4 solution 4 and 2 hours before. Then 3/4 cup of fresh grapefruit juice + 1/4 cup concentrated lime juice + 1/2 cup of oil. I used to use olive oil but got tired of the taste, now use grape seed oil. I’m not sure the type of oil matters. Also added a 1/4 teaspoon of turmeric. Just before drinking, I put some castor oil on my right side then covered it with plastic wrap (Saran wrap). Then put on a T-shirt. Microwaved a hot/cold pack to warm. I drank my purge mix ...
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Hi SuperDave, I have been away from CureZone for nearly two years but recently came across your thread. I want to invite you to read my story at the CureZone address below: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1117746 I have done about 55 liver purges over the last 12 years doing the Hulda Clarke method with Olive Oil, fresh grapefruit juice and MgSO4. I’ve gotten out a good deal of stuff but I’m still in pain unrelated to eating. I’ve gotten out so much stuff that I’ve come to the conclusion that the soft green pellets are not true gallstones because they are not hard and they ...
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Hi Telman, I wanted to update you on my quest for pain free living. I went to a surgeon to have another complaint looked at. It was a bulge in my mid-abdomen when I did a sit-up. I was concerned it was a hernia of some sort. He said no it was a lax alba where the stomach muscles came together. There was no tear and surgery was unnecessary. But for my right side pain he said to have my internist do a Helobacter antibody test, a repeat gallbladder ultra sound and a repeat Hida scan. The Helobacter test was negative; no bacteria in the stomach. The Hida scan was conducted with fir ...
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Hi Telman, Hope you are well and in good spirits. I tried another liver purge last week. Doing one every 2 months. While drinking the grapefruit juice and olive oil, I also took turmeric powder and Blupleurum tea both to help contract the gallbladder. The result was a goodly amount of stuff removed including two large green pellets about the size of the last joint on my thumb. I still don’t know if these pellets are manufactured in situ or actually are there at the time of the flush. But they are out now. The day after was great but starting on the 2nd day to today (10 days la ...
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Hi Telman, Thanks for the favor of your rely. I’m still feeling a returning gallbladder pain even after flushing 45 times. I think there must be something stuck or the gallbladder muscle is just shot. I’m trying ginger and rhubarb teas to move things along but not luck. It feels like the stuck piece is in the neck of the gallbladder and I can’t seem to pass it out even with the flushes. Any ideas for now or the next time I flush in a couple of weeks? Bye for now,   [End]
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Hi Appolonius, I have done about 45 liver purges over the last 12 years but still get a recurrent pain in the upper right hand quadrant. Is there a way that you can switch over to a thread that I started last year and read through it? It is under my handle Erasmus with the subject of Reappearing Gallbladder Pain After Liver Flush. It is a long thread and details a number of liver purges, with my questions to and comments from Telman and Plzchuckle. I used to get out a large number of soft green pellets 100-200 but that number has taper off. Now I go 2-4 months between purges and ...
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Hi Telman, Are you still out there? I finished another liver purge on 02/13/2009. It went OK but was only modestly productive. 2 tablespoons full of small stuff. This was after being off for 14 wees. Now I have pain as if something has slipped down into a channel or groove somewhere. Two questions, I’m preparing for a Colonoscopy exam tomorrow 2/19 which is a similar prep to the gallbladder purge. Any advice on how to use this as an opportunity to liver flush again? It is less than a week since the last. I’m planning to do the Colonoscopy prep as directed with an apple juice fast ...
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Hi Plzchuckle, It has been nearly 7 months since we last communicated. Is there a way to reach you off line? Either way, I’ve been doing Flushing every 2 months since I last wrote: April, June, August, October. I’ve decided to take December off and start again in February to see if a 4 month break was useful. In June and August there was nothing coming out. But in October, I added a teaspoon of Turmeric to my flush routine, which is supposed to cause the gallbladder to contract. I also laid on my right side, which I normally don’t do since the gallbladder empties to the left. I n ...
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Hi Telman, Thanks for your rely, I truly appreciate you efforts on my behalf. I will try increasing the amount of fiber in my diet as well as vit-C and diaphragmatic breathing. My big challenge will be to stop eating chocolate and start eating more fruit like pears. Over the past week, I did a hodge-podge of things. On Tuesday, I took a Trager Massage which over excited my gall bladder but was otherwise very interesting. On Friday, I did an unplanned liver purge. The start of my soccer coaching season begins this week and I wanted to have the purge out of the way not wanting to wa ...
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Hi Telman, I’m looking for some advice on how to manage my low-grade but persistent right side pain. My last liver purge was 2/22/08 and I want to wait for two months until the next one as less time yields very little. I just finished a parasite cleanse and now I’m finishing a pair of supplements that include turmeric in the pill and gold coin grass in the liquid. I went to visit a surgeon since we last corresponded. He was a nice fellow. If I ever do surgery, he will be the guy. But what to do now? The right side pain is present on raising in the morning. It builds to lunch tim ...
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Hi again Plzchuckle So what teas did you take, lemon grass or chamomile or whatever? How often and went’ Am, Pm, before breakfast, before dinner. I had a similar experience to yours in that for years if I ate certain food combinations, like Chinese food with plenty of soy sauce, then had vanilla ice cream, I was in the bathroom with cramps and diarrhea in 30 minutes. This was some sort of a dumping phenomenon. This went on for years and was very embarrassing at social functions because, I wasn’t always sure what other foods would start this. Then in 1996 I had a serious auto ac ...
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Plzchuckle, Thanks for your timely and insightful response. I currently am taking a break from liver purges. Last one, (#38) done on Feb 22 less than a teaspoon of pellets out. I currently take 1 Tablespoon flax seed oil + 1 teaspoon lecithin granules each morning with some tomato juice and turmeric. I drink 6-8 glasses of herbal tea or just hot water with tiny amount of vit-C which I read thins the bile. Maybe I will drop the turmeric for a few days and see what happens? I do believe that you started out with an extended liver that you cleaned in 16 purges. But perhaps our situa ...
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Plzchuckle, Hope you are well. Here are some questions. Have you ever taken turmeric and gotten a gall bladder attack from it? I’m trying to find a useful dose to exercise the gallbladder but not case it to spasm. Have you ever taken peppermint oil or caraway seed oil or a combination to reduce gallstones? Have you ever tried BioNeutrix product Gall Cleanse? It is a two part system with a peppermint oil + other stuff capsule and a turmeric + other stuff capsule. The oil capsule is suppossed to dissolved stones or plugs and the turmeric excites the gall bladder to squeeze th ...
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Plzchuckle, What is your opinion on how to soothe a cranky Gall bladder in the time between liver purges? Mine acts up on its own sometime more related to snow shoveling or physical exercise than to eating. I’m beginning to wonder if I have a hernia on the right side?!? I’ve had a Hida scan that showed my GB to clear only 27% of its contents, when 50-80% clearing is considered normal. Naturally my internist told me my GB is abnormal and needs to be removed. I’m concerned that if I can’t resolve the problem, it will lead to something more serious like pancreatitis or inflammation. I’ve ...
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Hi Telman, I wanted to update you on my week since my last gallbladder flush on Friday 2/22. It went well. I felt energized while on the apple juice fast part as often occurs. The flush went well as I am experienced with it. Saturday about 50 small green plugs came out which pretty much indicates to me that my liver is clean. On Sunday the pain returned in my right side, which probably means that the Sphincter of Odi clamping off tight and bile back pressure was building. On Monday, I had a low grade fever and bilateral pain , for which I was sure I was dying. It clean up after so ...
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Hi Telman, I have been fasting for the day, with a little apple juice, in preparation for a liver purge in a few hours. I nearly finished my GallCleanse product, so I wanted to do the purge to clean up the bits that were probably formed. I hope this is a good thing to do. I think for me, I will do this flush and then stop taking all my supplements once I finish the last 5 GallClense pills. I’m going to use 2 of them as part of the flush after I take the Olive oil to help contract the gallbladder. I think I passed a stone the other day when I felt a sharp pain that went away in a few ...
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Thanks for your response, I appreciate it. I find the MgSO4 helps but I will try your advice and only use it as needed and not on a regular basis. I found myself thinking I’m a total idiot for using the GallClease product. This maybe useful for others but for me it has a painful result. The second phase capsule causes the gallbladder to contract but it also seems to cause the Sphincter of Odi to contract. This creates a closed system and just builds up the pressure and pain. Since I have stopped taking that product, things are much improved. I may go back to it in a week or 2 just t ...
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Thanks for the information on the Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction. I am beginning to focus on that as my problem. I may talk to a surgeon about an ERCP proceedure to relax the Sphincter of Oddi. Any comments on the proceedure? Also I have been trying to finish the GallClease regime which actually squeezes my gallbladder pretty hard. I have backed off from 5 capsules per day (3 of the oil, 2 of the herbs) down to 2 capsules per day (1 of the oil, 1 of the herbs). I think I react pretty strongly to any herbal mixture with milk thistle in it, which this has. Have you ever heard of such ...
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I have been using the Gall Cleanse product by Bioneutix. The first pill, a peppermint oil based dissolvent actually seems to help but the second pill, the herb based flush seems to put my gallbladder into a painful contraction spasm hours afterwards. Is this product known to you?. What are some recommendations. Do you have any idea what I can take to help open the lower sphincter in the biliary tree?. It seems like my gallbladder fills during the day but the can’t empty because the whole lower part is filling-up. This is why repeated flushing doesn’t help for long. There are not s ...
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I appreciate your compassion to wave a magic wand for me. Thanks. I’m sure many folks wish for the same thing. Yes, my pain is in the right back and under the wing of the rt shoulder. The other day when I mentioned pushing something to get relief, I talked about the head of the pancreas but actually it was up higher, probably at the neck of the gallbladder. Sometimes I would like to take a survey of people who do liver purges and see if there is a personality type there. Are you convinced that the plugs that come out are from the liver/gallbladder and not the result of some de novo co ...
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After sending the complaining message, I looked through your previous messages and came across one where you talk about pushing down on the abdomen half way between the navel and the rt hip. This was to re-set a valve. I push at a different place, that being higher up just under the right rib cage at the about two fingers width away from the mid-line. There was a small lump there that moved when I pushed on it. I assume it was at the head of the pancreas and I either pushed a soft plug out into the common bile duct or back into the pancreas itself. Either way, the pain just went away. ...
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It has been 5 days since my last flush and I’m in more pain now than before. I’ve been to see the doctor who again strongly recommends surgery. My resolve to avoid surgery is waning. I just want the pain to go away. My wife thinks I’m stubborn to just suffer. I have a cat scan coming up this Friday. It might be a good day to flush again but I’m just tired of doing it.   [End]
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Thanks for your reply. What is the humaworm removal proceedure? How do you stand a flush every two weeks? The full day fast is difficult even drinking apple juice all day. The dehydration is also a problem the next day. I end up losing 3-4 lbs of water weight during a cleanse. Have you ever hear of a doctor who would vacuum out the gall bladder from the inside using a probe guided down the throat, through the stomach and up into the common bile duct? I would like to find such a fellow.   [End]
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I’ve done about 35 liver flushes in the last 10 years. The first 4 were useful and pain free afterwards. Between the 4th and 5th, I began to feel pain in the gall bladder area. I have no stones, checked on two ultra sounds. I do have a low functioning gall bladder, 20% ejection fraction seen on Hida test, for which removal surgery was recommended. I have continued to do flushes thinking that one more will get rid of the lodged stone (or plug). It doesn’t. What is causing this returning pain? Is something slipping down into the neck of the gall bladder? It the liver overworked b ...
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