Craig, this is an old post, but still on the front page of BED forum! I used to live in Australia (where Grainfield’s comes from) and a product called Grainfood was sold then. Even the local pharmacy sold it to people who got anitbiotics from him! Something similar might be Rejuvelac. BED recommends against using Rejuvelac. (search for ’ann wigmore rejuvelac recipe’) I think the problem with Rejuvelac is that you don’t know what strains are being reproduced as it is not as controlled and no starter is added. On Grainfield’s Australia site, they list the ingredients. They have done ...
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I use distilled water to make mine and keep it in the cupboard and stuff will grow in it after a while, so we make it again every few weeks. Probably best to keep in the fridge.   [End]
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Here is the link to... On ‘Death’ and MMS: Jim Humble Responds to Nash Attack phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/on-death-and-mms-jim-humble-responds-to-nash-attack/ From his location in Africa, Jim Humble sent me, in encrypted form, his own assessment of Mr. Nash’s accusations surrounding the death of his wife Sylvie. I’ll simply publish it as received, without further comment. ~AA October 16, 2009 — 5:42:12 AM Subject: Response to Doug Nash As I have already said, the loss of one’s wife is probably the greatest loss ...
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Frankly, I hate to draw attention to this, as I am a staunch supporter of the intelligent use of MMS, but in the interests of truth, a lady died allegedly of MMS. Jim has communicated with the husband and is not satisfied with the replies he has received as to what actually happened. Seems to be some suspicious potentials. There is a thread in the debate forum about it. http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1504247   Adam Abraham and Jim Humble have posted responses to the news. Adam’s blog of Humbles response. http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2009/10/ ...
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They have good prices and looks like a good service. If you purchase a kit from them PLEASE note that Sodium chlorite will destroy the rubber in the dropper bottles! Even if you are super careful to not let the solution get in the rubber bulb, it will eventually destroy the rubber. My favorite bottles are these plastic ones that provide a measured drop. The green bottles Humble uses do not provide a measured drop and need to be controlled carefully to not get more than you want. These are LPDE plastic: dropper bottles I have bulk powder, but have only been selling it local ...
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One of my older friends started losing his liver spots on MMS. The bigger ones were fading gradually. I guess you can’t complain if it is healing you! I’d rather lose a tattoo than my health! Best wishes for speedy healing!   [End]
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Jim Humble, in the DVD ’ Understanding MMS’ by Adam Abraham, clearly states that MMS will remove mercury. I personally used MMS at the end of a mercury protocol I was following. I used Waiora NCD zeolites for 8 months and on the last month I used only MMS and I still had a reduction of the mercury during that ’last’ month when it got down to the last bit that I was told will take a while to get rid of that last bit (the mercury in your skin). It takes some time to remove mercury fully from the cells of the body. Today I saw a heavy metal test kit that only tests ’fre ...
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Thanks for all those who replied to this question about purchasing form MMSmiracle.com sites. Basically everyone agreed that they have a good service and got their products just fine!   [End]
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I have been telling my friends for years about the dangers of Alkalizing water. The biggest thing is that is concentrates any of the elements in the water. So if you are using city water, and you do not purify the water before it hits the alkalizing machine, you are concentrating the flourine and chlorine! This was written about in ’Young Again’ by John Thomas in the late 90’s. The Kangen has a carbon filter, but carbon does not remove flourine! I finally found a really good article by a water expert that explains the issue. Now Fred hasn’t discovered Utopic Water structuri ...
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NorthStar, Chris’ units do the whole house, so that would cover your shower. They look similar to Utopic Water units, but don’t know if they work the same way. Chris, I wonder if your units produce permanently structured water? And for what distance from the unit will the water be structured? You  might like to find someone with a GDV unit to test your water. Utopic water units permanently structure the water and.. maybe I need to understand something more here, but they recommend that if you have a big house or pipes further than 300 feet, that you get a unit per 300 feet (of d ...
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Utopic Water makes structured water for the shower and whole house. http://utopicwater.com/ The developer of this system, Clayton Nolte, says that this water is naturally balanced, ie what nature intended. It does not have a neg ORP and works differently than the alkalizing machines. On the site you will see videos that show the energy in the water via Dr. Popovs GDV (a new testing system beyond Kirlian). The whole house unit is $999, so a lot of people get the shower unit and then fill jugs of water to use in the kitchen. (Good for apartment dwellers). I am not involved in ...
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I used Waiora’s NCD for heavy metal detox for 8 months (mercury, lead, cadmium). The last month I only did MMS and it worked just as well (I had been tested at 8 months too and at the end). I am still taking 6 drops/day of Zeolite for maintenance and also MMS, but not consistent with the MMS. My practitioner said I was low in minerals so recommended Concentrace, I took that for a while then switched to 10-20g per day (1-2 scoops) of URI’s ”The Feast” to up my good minerals and that tested to work also. One of the interviews with Jim Humble mentions someone who was successful with mer ...
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Scouter, thanks so much for your review. YOu know, you can take 1/2 a drop. Just make 1 drop, add water, then just drink 1/2 the water. A friend is doing 8 drops of MMS in 40 oz water bottle and sipping it throughout the day. NOT activated. That is about 1ppm and depending on stomach acid to activate. Maybe that will be more gentle for you. You might want to start your own post here and copy the details about your condition, maybe others will have good suggestions for you. Wishing you all the best!   [End]
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I appreciate your thoughts and comments. I guess the biggest thing is that it must labeled properly. There are a lot of dangerous chemicals sold, there is nothing unique about MMS that way. They are all labeled properly (well at least the ones with attorneys probably are!) My husband works with chemicals and the way Jim worked the 28% is actually a 21.x% solution per chemical standards (it accounts for the other 20% of the 80% NACLO2 that is sold). Jim does mention this in his book. The liability issues you raise are serious and not to be taken lightly. Maybe a group of produce ...
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” I’m now brushing my teeth with it (at night) and drinking the rest. Can you brush your teeth with regular toothpaste first or afterwards? Also I have used apple juice with it.” Nothing wrong with brushing your teeth with it. I would rinse and spit it out though (you are probably doing that!) I would see no reason to brush your teeth with toothpaste also. Hm, that gives me an idea. Based on the info that was fwded around about brushing your teeth with soap, which I have been doing for a while anyways. (I use just a drop, from a 2oz bottle with a flip top dropper that I put URI green ...
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Thanks Hellth. A local friend made me aware of the debate yesterday and has spoken with the Biosafe guy a fair bit. I have to catch up on all of that! It would be unfortunate for him to complain, esp if he is in Australia and maybe doesn’t understand how draconian it is getting around here. A big concern I have about selling the liquid.. is that I know from health product MLMs I have been in that you can, in no cases, use testimonials to sell a product unless you have the studies that show the results that people are reporting. This applies to providing the ’educational’ information ...
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A friend of mine is using 8 drops of 28% NACLO2 (unactivated MMS) in 40 oz of water and has calculated that to be about a 1 ppm solution. She feels it and is quite sure this will be activated by the gastric acids. Plus she is sipping it throughout the day.   [End]
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I think he is reading text on the screen. But really.. I hope I am as active as he is when I am 78 (or thereabouts)!   [End]
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I have not yet heard of anyone actually buying any MMS from any of the MMSMiracle.com websites. They allow you to become a reseller, so when you see the urls, it will usally be www.mmsmiracle.com/someonesname. I have used their contact form twice, and received no reply. [Update: I just  found a reply to myFeb 8  inquiry, and it was signed Daniel and has a phone number) I have signed up for a site, but have not put it on my blog yet. It is a nice system in that you can get a site and set the retail price to whatever you like (I set mine for $15.97), as long as it is above their ...
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Mountain Rose Herbs looks like a great source. A few things you might consider when comparing prices of prepared green drink mixes and purchasing bulk powders is: Are the powders made from powdered whole product or powdered JUICEs of the product? How are the powders prepared? What Temperatures are they dried at? My personal choice at the moment is Uri Internationals ’The Feast’, but I don’t think it has seaweeds in it. It is made from organic or transition (tested non-toxic) juice powders dried very quickly at temperatures never reaching over 100 degrees F. and they are a big suppl ...
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There is a very good people cancer testimonial on this Australian MMS site: www.miraclems.com Might be more than one there now.   [End]
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And my question is: is a REAL Vitamin C a problem, or just USP Vitamin C (which is ascobic acid, processed with hyrdogenated oxygen and acetone). REAL Vitamin C, as I understand it, would be the whole nutrient, complete with bioflavinoids, proteins and carbohydrates found in fruit. This site has a lot to say about it: http://grownbynature.com/wst_page17.html to wit: ”The finding that the Citrus Extract (Re-Natured® Vitamin C) is more bioavailable than Ascorbic Acid alone, that it acts as a timed release formulation, is adventageous for supplementation. ”In Conclusion, ...
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The maker of the video has been in contact with Jim Humble also and has some great testimonials (some cancer) on his website and the people talk about their dosages. http://www.miraclems.com He has permission from Jim Humble to offer the book downloads. The Cancer Support Group might like to know about his http://www.howibeatcancer.com website. The picts on the homepage of howibeatcancer are of his tumor and a bit gruesome if you are not prepared for it. IMHO, not for kids. At present, his full cancer treatment to-date story is in his forum.   [End]
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Great ”How to Mix MMS” video from cubibear on YouTube. He did a great job with this! 7 minutes. He presently has cancer symptoms himself and mentions this in the video. His website link is http://www.miraclems.com Mix MMS -Miracle Mineral Supplement [Video Embedded Here]   [End]
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Halogenated Chlorine Dioxide Anyone know what this is? It is in the supplment facts of the product found on the link in above post. http://www.dreddyclinic.com/products/ghchealth/oxygenator-herbal-antibiotic.htm [note that DrEddyclinic is in Thailand] Most ’stabilized oxygen’ products list the % of sodium chlorite. Hm product is Oxygenator made by http://www.ghchealth.com/oxygenator.php and currently TOS. Perhaps GHC is up on things and going to rewrite the books about ’stablised oxygen’ really works! Or redesign the product and provide an activator? from an article on their site: & ...
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To clarify: mix 1 drop of MMS and 5 drops citric acid solution, set, then add 1/2 cup juice or water and then drink just half of that mixture, 1/4 cup. Use the other half cup to clean your tooth brush!   [End]
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We have used it on 2 burns so far; one from wood and it was small but not nice and the other from spilled candle wax. In both cases, it helped a great deal. It really helped the wood burn heal fast. For burns, you put just the MMS w/o activation on it. Only leave it for 1-2 minutes, then rinse with any liquid that is handy.. water, juice, etc. I have put it on my scalp a few times and skin, mixing 6 drops MMS and 30 drops citric acid, 1/2 c water and rinsing in 1-2 minutes. I do it before showering, but have not done it consistentyly to see any results so far. I also brush and rin ...
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Or a Ball canning jar, they do make big ones. Also, the coffee pots that come with coffee makers are small, but pyrex.   [End]
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You can use it to treat burns, just the MMS, without activating it. Check the book, he does mention using it in eyes, but I think it would be quite diluted with water after you make it.   [End]
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I have found the plastic dropper cap on the bottles that everyone is using (and Jim recommends) to be rather unacceptable for controlling the drops! It is too easy to squirt it out. I intend to search the bottle market! In the meantime, I am using the plastic bottle that comes with Waiora’s NCD Zeolite. It is a nice 15ml bottle with a tip that does a very controlled drop. Luckily I had been saving them (little bottle fetish, perhaps!) I put MMS in one bottle and the citric acid in another. It was easy to use a little plastic cup that sometimes comes with medicines to measure the 15ml (1 ...
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The audio CD that Globalight is sending with orders is an interview with Jim Humble by Adam Abraham of webtalkradio.net. Jim says that people have reported being clear of mercury in 1-2 weeks! The way he describes it working, we had thought it may ’explode’ the mercury and perhaps it is doing this. DH and I have been using Waiora’s NCD for 6 months now and it has reduced our levels a lot, but we are anxious now to see what the MMS will do for us. We are just on 4 adn 5 drops per day at present. My husband does not think it will conflict with the NCD zeolite as the NCD molecule and ...
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The person I am getting advice from RE my mercury detox has been researching mercury health issues and helping people for 19 years. He has talked to all the dentists working on the detox and healthy removal of mercury fillings. Before about a year and a half ago, he had a protocol that cost about $2000 to implement. Then someone brought him Waiora’s zeolite. He has found that one bottle of NCD removes about 7 ounces of mercury. (He has his own system of testing). Now his protocol is like about $200 to implement! Much cheaper and more effective than the assortment of natural supplements ...
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You mentioned : ”I do believe that acne is tied to candida...but also that candida is tied to heavy metals” You are so right. Candida is actually a way your body protects you FROM mercury poisoning! So if you just attack the candida, and you have mercury fillings (or have HAD mercury fillings and never detoxed after getting them removed...) you are really making things worse! Our bodies are so amazing really! I have had acne since puberty and mercury fillings since childhood. The only thing that has ever helped my acne has been taking Waiora’s NCD zeolite. I have been amazed to ...
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DH and I have been using NCD primarily to address build-up from mercury amalgam fillings we both have not yet had removed (me 9 fillings and DH, 8). As I understand it, Waiora’s product is the ONLY one that mines the zeolites and cleans out the molecule from the toxins it may have picked up in nature. They developed the proprietary process to do this. They call this ’activated’, because the zeolites can do more work since they have been cleaned out. Apparently there are some brands that just powder some zeolite, mix with water and put in a bottle! The molecules have not been cleaned ...
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I am very curious about this as we have been helped a lot and found a lot of truth (and supported by research) from Dr. Dadamo’s Blood Type Diet. According to his research, Coconut Oil is an AVOID for all blood types, except Type 0, non-secretor. You might check his food recommendations for your blood type and find that by just dropping a few foods that are avoids for your blood type will help with the weight loss. Here’s a rather technical answer to the issue of coconut oil: http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000226.htm   [End]
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Hi, you may want to email Jim Humble before starting the iodine treatment again. As a gold assayer, he would understand the chemistry happening here. Iodine is used to LEACH GOLD out of solution! Whether or not it is doing this in your mouth is hard to say. But you may want to talk to your dentist or email Jim.   [End]
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Ah, thanks for sharing that. I had suspected that MMS in the mouth could interfere with any other metal in the mouth. I know a mercury health researcher and was going to ask him what he thought. I still have mercury/silver fillings and know enough chemistry to assume that the negative charge of the MMS (with vinegar, which also makes it acidic) will ’help’ in dissolving any metal in the mouth. As it is with merc fillings, every time you eat or drink or brush your teeth, you are releasing more merc vapors! Also, most gold fillings do have amalgam (silver/merc) under the gold, and o ...
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The link for the interview has changed: Here is a radio show with Adam Abraham interviewing Jim Humble talking about the MMS - Life Saving Chemistry: Interview with Jim Humble: http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/69/33/ If it changes again, go to http://www.webtalkradio.net and input ’Jim Humble’in the search box. Thanks for all that info. I have just read his MMS book. He is a mining expert and also has a book/course on learning fire assay (test with furnace to determine metal content of materials).   [End]
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