Hi longterm I thought you are already cured while following the candida (fluconazole treatment), I just came here to assure every one that I am cured and I did not peel my lips since more than a year now, I still constantly moisturize my lips with bepanthen, take nice probiotic, take Vit D, exercise (mostly long walk)   [End]
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May be because beer is less alcohol content and more liquid so plenty of fluid intake might be helping, or May be while while drinking beer it might flush all the unhealthy microbes again because of high water content and it was a mystery for me too!   [End]
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I used Bio-Kult 14 strains capsule (2 billion live bacteria per capsule.   [End]
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I was peeling free since almost a year now and I constantly apply bepanthen still whenever I feel dry lips. In my case it was candida, that caused no physical symptoms but the side effect of altered commensal microbes was peeling lips. I could confidentially say that peeling lips can become the gold standard symptom to diagnose yeast overgrowth in the future. Problem with the medical community is that it doesn’t even recognize something called as yeast overgrowth then how does it understand something which is a side effect of yeast overgrowth. Peeling lips is a symptom of yeast ov ...
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Bepanthen is just a moisturizer, I am completely peeling free since I started using this.   [End]
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Lot of people here including me tried leave alone method with no success, but each individual is different I don’t want to discourage you from trying but my suggestion is its not worth. Just maintain good oral hygiene, scrap your tongue after you eat, apply bepanthen and your lips will back to normal eventually.   [End]
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I am absolutely peeling free last 6-8 months I don’t know if I can use the word cured yet because I am still depending upon bepanthen. I moisturize with bepanthen say like for every 2-3 hours. Some important obsevation I observed in last 8 months, There is white gluey thing accumulating in the juction of lips which is trying to eat the healthy lip skin. As long as I am covering my lips with a protective bepanthen, that white material is unable to reach the skin. This is very important observation. what is that white accumilation? it suggets to me of some microbe might be cand ...
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What am I reading, who is having exfoliative cheilitis since last 30 years??   [End]
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Use Bepanthen moisturizer Main tain strict oral hygiene Use some mouthwash twice daily Take some probiotics And most importantly stay relaxed I am cured since long time now!   [End]
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Yes I am a research pathologist (still studying) and I genuinely think that Exfoliative cheilitis is a candidal infection in the entire oral mucosa. Candida is difficult to treat dude, over time the drugs will loose efficasy and recently in a study it was proved that most effective way is to use antimicrobial mouth wash, which already worked wonders to me and many infact. Bepanthen has definitely helped me get cured.   [End]
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Easy dude! All the best.   [End]
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I feel its not worthy to treat candida with chemothrapy!   [End]
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http://www.amazon.com/Bepanthen-Diaper-Nappy-Care-Ointment/dp/B001D2ASVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390105330&sr=8-1&keywords=bepanthen+nappy+care+ointment   [End]
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Bepanthen accounts for 50% of healing Oral cleanliness (mouth washes) accounts for another 50% of cure.   [End]
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I remember the days when my lip skin used to peel like sheets. From that condition to no peeling I would consider this as being cured. Coming to moisturising lips 3-6 times, I used to moisturize before and my lip skin used to peel and now I moisturize and my lip skin doesn’t peel. I tried not to use any moisturizers in summer I just felt dry lips. But now the temperatures here are below minus 10. http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/lip-care/health/lips-different-skin...   [End]
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I do not have any build up or whitening on contact with water, with or without using bepanthen. I only felt normal dry lips, and I feel more comfortable with bepanthen than any petroleum jelly.   [End]
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Excuse me please, I live in a coldest region on planet. Its normal for any one living here to use moisturizers..   [End]
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Usually apply 3-6 times.   [End]
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Longterm, what is your field of study in real life?   [End]
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Apply bepanthen and maintain strict oral hygine.   [End]
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Congracts dude.   [End]
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Bayer Bepanthen Diaper(Nappy) Care Ointment.   [End]
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upto 6 months to completely cure.   [End]
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My lips are getting norally dry chapped when i am quitting bepanthen ointment. But they never turned white on contact with water. So I can confidentally say that even if I quit using bepanthen I will be free. Fordyce sopts have buried deep under the skin layers they are no more visisble.   [End]
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My exfoliative has dissappeared completely. I am using bepanthen regularly and good oral hygiene. I recommend to wet lips and apply bepanthen before going to bed. To be honest I forgot that I used to suffer once upon a time.   [End]
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It took over 3-6months to completely get cured.   [End]
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Using moisturizer is not a medical treatment. Before also I used to use moisturizers but when my lips used to touch water they would peel like thick sheets. Now now my lips are 100% normal. It might take some more time to completely giveup moisturizers. Now I am on one of the coldest regions on earth, so using moisturizer is a norm! I would attribute my cure to: 50%----- brushing and mouth wash 50%----- bepanthen I absolutely avoided all kinds of sugars for over 1 year now. Took good qualty probiotics.   [End]
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I apply it very often, 3-7 times in a day. Initially I too felt some negligible burning sensation but after the protective layes are formed as before, it no longer hurts.   [End]
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Fortunately I am still cured. I am applying bepanthen regularly, its just a moisturizer.   [End]
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I am cured as per the peeling is concerned. as simple as it sounds,.   [End]
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Hi longterm, how are your lips doing?   [End]
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I recommend antifungal nynstatin mouthwash for a short period, and then continue the regular mouth washes.   [End]
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AS long as you guys will sterilize mouth with mouthwashes after eating Aslong as you guys apply bepanthen, as long as you guys avoid, touching drinks,eatables to lips(except water and tooth paste) as long as you stop eating foods which candida feeds untill that time your lips will be normal without peeling. By my theory we are steriling the oral cavity, and there by completely stopping the peeling. But the actual thing is candidal overgrowth in entire digestive tract from mouth to anus, I recommend to go on antifungals like ”longterm” did and get cured completely.
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Stay far away from soft drinks, which have 10-12 teaspoons of sugar in every 12 ounces(360ml)   [End]
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Yoou were killing fungus with antifungals and at the same time you were feeding them with coke. Just go complete sugarfree for a while.   [End]
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Great! keep maintaining good oral hygiene. Also include good quality pro-biotics. I am sure by this time your lips will not go white in water.   [End]
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I am sure it will be available in any pharmacy across Europe and USA. Its usually available in 30 grams tube.   [End]
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Mometasone is a potent steroid, its not safe in longterm use.   [End]
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great!   [End]
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Aqua, Glycerin, Polysorbate 20, Aroma, Methylparaben, Cetylpyridinium Chloride, Sodium Fluoride, Sodium Saccharin, Sodium Benzoate, Propylparaben, CI42051. Contains Sodium Fluoride (0,05%)   [End]
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Don’t be so particular for one brand, all the mouth washes have ability to reduce the microbial count in mouth. I used oral B 1 month back after that I used colgate and now I am using dentimint. Just try different brands. Use the one which suits you. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dentimint-Fluoride-Mouthwash-600ml-Fresh/dp/B004KLPY3I   [End]
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you use bepanthen and mouthwash multiple time in a day, when you use good mouth wash it immediately reduces the white formings and coatings on tongue, when you get rid of this white coating which is full of colonies of microorganisms, immediately your lips will go back to normal.   [End]
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ECParent, I remember your son had tooth braces, it might be the cause for microbial overgrowth. And it is common (infact very common) to have candidal infection in subjects who used dental implants. Could you if possible send the pics of his lips, teeth, tongue to my mail box.   [End]
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The effect of cetylpyridinium chloride (CPC) on pathogenic fungi and Nocardia asteroides was studied. Sputa seeded with each of 11 organisms (Aspergillus flavus; Aspergillus fumigatus, Blastomyces dermatitidis, Candida albicans, Coccidioides immitis, Cryptococcus neoformans, Geotrichum candidum, Histoplasma capsulatum; Nocardia asteroides, Paracoccidioides brasiliensis, and Sporothrix schenckii) were treated with CPC and kept for 2, 5 and 9 days. The CPC reagent used (0.5% CPC and 0.5% sodium chloride) is one the Mycobacteriolgoy Branch at the Center for Disease Control added to sputa befo ...
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longterm are you still taking sporanox.   [End]
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Poof! what do you mean by this word?   [End]
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Its not psycological anymore and its not due to vitamin B5 deficiency, I know dexpanthenol is analogous to b5 vitamin!   [End]
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manual peeling, on their own they peeled for every 3 days   [End]
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My EC type is inner half of lower lip and top lip where ever it touched the lower lip. They used to peel daily. Yes I have a CHARACTERISTIC TRIANGULAR area effected on upper lip. But there was no painful inflammation, the entire peeling area was so red and borders were surrounden by fordyce spots.   [End]
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https://www.igdp.co.uk/store/products/oral-b-anti-plaque-alcohol-free-mouth-rinse-fresh-mint/   [End]
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Nice question Before when I used to eat burger lips used to crack as I have to stretch them. Now The newly growing skin was little bit plastic restricting feeling, then I stretched them , They slightly cracked on superficial layer and then new skin was covering the cracks formed, its just normal process to restore elasticity. no peeling or crusting or gong white on contact with water. When ever you feel white junk accumilating then use mouthwash, it immediately reduces the stuff.   [End]
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I tried econazole un-officially without knowing to my doctors for say 2 times a day for 2 months!   [End]
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Currently I am off the moisturizer, After hot shower my lips get little dry I can feel on touching, and they moisture themselves aftersometime. There is no peelings or going white at all. We have removed the candidal biomembrane by strict hygiene and now the outer layer of newly growing skin is extracting nutrients from basement membranes. Every thing back to normal! Strict hygiene I mean Brush in morning + mouthwash apply bepanthen just squash water don’t eat or drink any thing in the middle, except water then after lunch again use mouth wash if possible us ...
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Sorry it was not fluconazole, it was econazole. pevaryl ointment   [End]
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There is no change in my stress levels, In fact during healing it was one of the busiest time I was so busy then. Its just microbial overgrowth in mucus membrane, I maintained good hygiene by brushing after I eat and then used mouth wash along with applying bepanthen moisturizer and my lips healed gradually.   [End]
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My peelings were like thick yellow sheets while I was using vaseline and I would peel them daily after the shower. After using bepanthen the peeling reduced. I started using bepanthen from last 5 months and in between I started following strict oral hygiene and peelings completely disappeared. I used fluconazole ointment - no use (slightly beneficial effect) miconazole+clobetasone butyrate - no use 0.1% protopic - worst fluconazole+ hydrocortisone ointment - no use moisturizers that worsened peelings - vasel ...
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what moisturizer do you have now.   [End]
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use it when ever possible and as much as possible http://www.bayer.co.id/eng/hc_cc_products.php?g_id=2&p_id=7   [End]
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1 month   [End]
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Oh no this moisturizer (bepanthen) is a game changer, its not just a moisturizer its something more.   [End]
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https://www.igdp.co.uk/store/products/oral-b-anti-plaque-alcohol-free-mouth-rinse-fresh-mint/ Also use bepanthen moisturizer.   [End]
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Currently I am using oral B, In between I used colgate which was the worst.   [End]
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longterm, I think milk contains lactose (and not lactic acid) which is a sugar.   [End]
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Nice question! Lining mucosa: . The lining mucosa covers the lips, cheek, floor of the mouth, undersurface of the tongue and the soft palate. this is from scientific literature! The overgrowth is on entire lining mucosa, that is why we can see white coating near the junction of lips, the white coating is also forming every where but the constant saliva flow is cleaning, thats why we are unable to notice. Lips are just part of oral mucosa, because lips are not wetted by saliva, hence they are drying and crusting due to infection. Its not recommended to wet the lips with saliva, ...
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I strongly believe it is not just on lips, its on entire oral mucosa.   [End]
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the one in this picture from website http://www.bayer.co.id/eng/hc_cc_products.php?g_id=2&p_id=7 this is actually a baby nappy rash product, but did wonders to my lips!   [End]
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The bepanthen I have used comes in 30 gm ointment tube Bepanthen Dexpantenol SALVE 30g by BAYER.   [End]
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I am using mouth wash that contains sodium fluoride cetylpyridinium chloride These are 2 main ingredients that are antimicrobial.   [End]
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longterm, Moisturizer definitely played its role (Bepanthen). Whenever I used just vaseline(petrolium jelly) then my lips peeled like sheets.   [End]
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jle1987, since june my peeling subsided completely, If this treatment works you should observe great improvements with in 2 weeks. White sticky material should disappear within a week. I think that this treatment should work for all those who have white sticky material on their lips. along with this method treatment, I did not touch any thing on my lips, even water I used to drink from a bottle. During the treatment I observed even If slightest of milk would touch lips, then there was very very minor peeling, not anymore. This suggests us that there are microbes over there whic ...
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Brushing before going to bed is very very very important, and also use mouth wash immediately after brushing.   [End]
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Alcohol containing mouth washes especially listerine, I have a misconception that alcohol is antibacterial and fungus may thrive on alcohol! I am not so particular about mouthwashes, But keep testing them in trial and error fashion until you find the one which could effectively reduce the white coating on tongue if any and as soon as the local flora is in control you can feel the lips natually hydrate themselves. I strongly think that a thin candidal biofilm is spread all across the oral mucosa including on teeth, gums, teeth. Its not just candida on lips, its on the entire oral m ...
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Please change the mouth wash, there were some mouthwashes which gave me white stuff on the tongue too and staining. Not all the mouth washes as effective, try more than one I don’t know what place you are from. And also I strongly belive it as candidal over growth in the entire system, so avoid all chocolates stuff for a while. I had a hell of fordyce spots, that was when lips were peeling , once the peeling subsided, the fordyce spots are getting buried deeper into the newly growing healthy skin. This is the link to my cure http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2076418#i ...
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Healing2021, I have been using the bepanthen moisturizer, and mouthwash. I had used the mouth wash mutiple times in a day after eating. The more I used my mouth wash, the lesser the lips were drying up. so its the microbial over growth thats caausing the dryness and body starts immune reaction to dryness by building protective sheets of skin. Even though my lips were not peeling since lastmonth I have been applying the bepanthen moisturizer. Now I don’t require moisturizer, they startedmoisturizing themselves.   [End]
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I have stopped using the moisturizer since last week, and my lips are completely healed. I am continuing the oral mouth wash its anyway good for oral hygiene.   [End]
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I think in very dilute concentrations it should be safe. lethal tool against microorganisms!   [End]
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Hey nice to hear that theory is working.   [End]
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Mouthwash I use oral B, alcohol free (I also used colgate alcohol free) Yes I use it twice in conjugation with brushing. Before I used to brush only once, but now brushing twice is a norm.   [End]
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I have more than 4 flavors toothpastes in use. Yes some people here might be allergic to sodium laurylsulafate in tooth pastes which might be causing this.   [End]
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Longterm, I wanted to ask do you copy paste the information here or type, kudos to your patience. I am so lazy to type here that I just kind of convey in controversial statements. haha......   [End]
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I imagined to sellect a group of psoriasis patients, give them antifungals for a definitive period and see the results statistically.   [End]
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Oh yes, maintaining hygiene is always good. I am using the bepanthen salve ointment, wonderful moisturizer, I doubt if this moisturizer alone cured me.   [End]
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Hey I am completely cured, but baffled why its not working for everyone.   [End]
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If so then there is a need to conduct clinical trials on certain group of psoriasis patients and see if null hypothesis is significant.......   [End]
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Hey I recommended chewing gum because, constant salivary flow can maintain hygiene.   [End]
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hi anushka do you have buildup on lips   [End]
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Hi all, This is not an instant overnight conclusion, I suffered with this for last 18months, Tried many kinds of steroids, immunomodulatories, antibiotics, antifungals both systemic and topical but nothing worked, coincidentally I am a researcher, I was constantly thinking what might be the cause, seen countless number of doctors, but no body even had any idea about this condition, Finally when I am cured, I sincerely want to help you guys out, I don’t want anybody else to suffer like me. I was completely isolated since last 18 months, My suggestion, no body needs to s ...
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The root cause is plaque on teeth Plaque is thick bacterial coating Started brushing the teeth very carefully twice a day, along with oralb mouth rinse The only moisturizer that helped was bepanthen. Finally lips do not go white on contact with water, and no peeling.   [End]
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Its because your dead skin is broken down by enzymes in saliva.   [End]
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http://www.skincell.org/community/index.php?topic=14407.0 Did any body try this?   [End]
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daniel do you used to eat more sugar containing foods? what was your regular diet consisted of, how many times you eat in a day, sleep pattern over one year? any change did you observe in digestion over this time?   [End]
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Coconut containa a triglyceride called caprylic acid. And caprylic acid was proved to be anti-bacterial antiviral and antifungal. This would be excellent moisturizer as well as antimicrobial.   [End]
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If it doesn’t cure after a course of anifungals, it doesn’t mean that its not fungal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   [End]
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you might need a maintenance dose probably. what is your peeling time normally & thickness.   [End]
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I have a pdf file, where can i upload it   [End]
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I came across article which claimed that the condition dramatically improved with oral prednisolone 30mm/day. And later after condition dissappeared a maintenance dose of 5mg/day. Have anybody tried?   [End]
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could you tell us about your candida treatment medications.   [End]
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Exfoliative cheilitis might be external manifestation of the fungal overgrowth in small intestine. We Know bacterial overgrowth of small intestine and there are good tests for diagnosis. But there are no diagnostic tests for candida. There might be need to prepare antifungals which can be given orally, should not be absorbed into the blood stream but stay in small intestine and kill all the fungus!   [End]
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it might be some invasive treatment. But we can understand that doctors in that generation were much better than ours.   [End]
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I came across 2 articles which claimed that 1. the condition cleared on application of codeine, 1912 2. another condition cured by x ray treatment 1930’s and the authors mentioned that condition clears if the patient successfuly avoids touching their lips with saliva.   [End]
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From this article we can assume that lip skin is impermeable. May be we should try local injections. There are no studies made related to permeability of lips until today. This article, though old should be break through for us.   [End]
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Could you upload your lip pictures, we’ll compare   [End]
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what steroids & immunomodulators have you tried until now?   [End]
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there are examples for each categories mentioned but doctors are not taking the condition seriously. There might be only, less than 1000 cases in this world, including those who cannot even access internet.   [End]
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I’m following your posts since a while now. Can u please answer my questions 1. while leaving alone did you use protopic? 2. what do you mean by cured but inflammation persisted? Warning: use protopic judiciously. In rare cases its side effects include virtiligo, some rare cancers. Exfoliative cheilitis is nothing compared to!   [End]
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since past 1 and half months.   [End]
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this method is definitely working, slowly 5% area has healed and the rest started hydrating themselves I don’t need to apply any lip balms any more.   [End]
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we should try this compound .hope   [End]
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1.Due to nutritional deficiencies the protective epidermis might have peeled first and then licking and biting might have innoculated/cultured some pathogenic species on that spot by providing necessary conditions. 2.licking on healthy epidermis might not cause any damage ,but if epidermis is lacking and we licked ,there are 2 possibilities,a)damage by salivary enzymes b)some pathogenic species might be growing there. rule out : if it was a damage by salivary enzyme it might have initiated an inflammatory response, which should have been resolved with steroid ointments.(so its not immune ...
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1. Check out serum serotonin levels, its directly related some way or another. 2. rule out fat malabsorption 3. Helicobacter pylori infection/parasites 4. Try antifungal/antibiotic/&antiviral topical applications like gels . 5. It should be fungal infection which might need long term application of antifungals say might be more than 3months. so ask for any mild concentrated ointments for long term use.   [End]
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I wanted to know if any one here was on finasteride(propecia) or minoxidil.   [End]
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why couldn’t it be tuberculosis,local.Now a days tuberculosis is not even showing in regular skin test and even local biopsies are unlikely to detect.I seen in this form some very old text showing it cured on tuberculosis medication.   [End]
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dont use any strong steroids,just use 100%natural lip balms only to the effected parts of lip ,not entire lips ,because many people i have seen are developing allergy to lip balms,which again mimics the condition and confusing.   [End]
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try to apply 100% natural lip balms.   [End]
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you are messing up things ,if you are getting more happiness by thinking that you cannot be healed,then atleast for gods sake please stop writing your negative thoughts clearly shows up your feeling of helplessness ,anxiety.Atleast see others people getting healed and then you heal on self evidence based confidence.   [End]
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I agree to you it is not caused by psycological distubances,cause may be repeated touching of saliva ,which contains digestive enzymes.But the ongoing condition after wards which is delaying healing is purely psychological.   [End]
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why do you unnecessarily worry,psoriasis and rheumatoid arthritis are no doubt autoimmune conditions where the body makes antibodies against its own cells and these can come into remission but not cured.But exfoliative cheilitis you don’t find any antibodies attacking,its only a temporary condition which cures,I’m repeating it cures.   [End]
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Don’t use medicated blistex ,unless you have sore bleeding.I can recommend you like Bariederm,any balm of petrolatum free from fragrance,or you can use 100%lanolin.   [End]
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If a patient has diagnosed with some thing ,doctors will say sorry you have so and so,and treat.If you are healthy and go to doctors ,then obviously its all in your head.Coming to peeling lips its not a disease its a wrong decision taken by your cells to peel at a fast rate under incomplete impulses from brain ,which is again linked to negative thinking .so positive thinking(positive thinking means just think you are healthy,and its true also that every one in this forum are healthy) makes your brain to send potent impulses and condition reverses.   [End]
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i agree we cannot come to conclusion by studying only 3 people,but there are only very few cases in this world comparative to any other condition,if there are few people then we need to come to conclusion based on few experiences.it again shows in your thinking that you stick to negative side ,be confident and tell to your self that you are curing.and coming to swelling inflamation ,its due to some allergy to things which you are applying,and not due to exfoliative cheilitis.use lip balms free from fragrances.and i also kindly request not to visit or google about this condition ,because i ...
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think you are cured and you’ll be cured any time ,and don’t forget to reply me on that day.   [End]
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i’m a researcher in this oral pathology,we investigated 3 cases for last 15 years ,like allergy tests,gastro intestinal studies,repeated number of biopsies ,no deficiencies,no endocrine disorders .If it was a disease it would had show up some where in these tests,and supporting to our conclusion all 3 cases healed spontaneously 1 year,1year4months,9years years approximately.   [End]
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apply bariederm lip balm after applying water each time   [End]
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its 100% psycological problem and is curable spontaneously ,dont know exactly but cure itself in span 1year to 10 years max.   [End]
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