Raider, you are so kind to offer. I did see your message to me and took down your e-mail address but then my phone rang and I got kicked off the computer..(forgot to disconnect the second phone line) anyway it was my sister in the states and as we were talking I told her about the hydroxgyen plus and she said well silly I will get it and send it to you..no dramas..So let me say thank-you for your offer. Don't know why I didn't think of such a simple thing as calling family in the states..duhhh...Thanks Raider you are a great help to many.